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AZJonnie

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13. It's not surprising that it got confused, this entire discussion is extremely circular
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:00 PM
Feb 13

In fact, I use Claude all the time, and it is very solid at getting quotes right when the attribution is clear-cut, but not when it finds a forum discussion thread like this. You also don't know the prompt that provoked this response which was very lackadaisically composed on my part.

AI getting this completely right would be outside the scope of a cheap or free subscription. This discussion, over multiple threads, involving multiple people, is simply too complicated for it to parse, given there's a limit to how hard it will work on any given response. All that it 'got completely wrong' is that it didn't search the entire history of the entire internet to see if the blurb was from any publication ever posted to the internet.

If I had a $100/month subscription using a model with more horsepower, and I wasn't using a model that specializes in coding work but rather on interpreting conversations, it would've done a better job. You get what you pay for in the AI world, and you need to use the right tool for the task, and you ABSOLUTELY have to compose good prompts

But your overall point is taken: It's established that AI makes mistakes and should be reviewed.

P.S. I understand how and why "writing" generally, and proper attribution in particular is very near and dear to you and understand why this mistake (in Goonch's post) is particularly irksome

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Thx to you & Goonch SheltieLover Feb 13 #1
Lol for fun I asked an AI the reason for the discrepancy and gave it the passage from your post AZJonnie Feb 13 #2
Not sure what you mean. It quoted one of my replies in that Science Fiction thread, or it quoted highplainsdem Feb 13 #4
I mean it literally sourced from this very thread AZJonnie Feb 13 #7
Claude is clueless. There is an actual story. I posted links about it in the earlier thread I linked to. There highplainsdem Feb 13 #9
It's not surprising that it got confused, this entire discussion is extremely circular AZJonnie Feb 13 #13
I would've expected any bot to at least follow the links in both threads, which would have shown that highplainsdem Feb 13 #15
Claude would have seen this bit, in Goonch's follow-up, which said this: AZJonnie Feb 13 #17
Interesting seeing you try to defend Claude's inane answer, when this thread links to the older thread highplainsdem Feb 15 #19
I guess I am, given you don't know what the actual prompt was, yet are arbitrarily coming up with a strawman AZJonnie Feb 15 #20
If there was anything close to intelligence in Claude, the highplainsdem Feb 15 #21
Why must you insist it's a delusional tangent AZJonnie Feb 15 #22
No, the problem using genAI is with genAI and its inherent flaws. Anyone who's ever used genAI should highplainsdem Feb 16 #27
And, The Chatbot Is Still Wrong ProfessorGAC Feb 13 #3
+1. It's patent nonsense dalton99a Feb 13 #5
I don't know about that one, Professor :) AZJonnie Feb 13 #8
I'm Going To Say No ProfessorGAC Feb 13 #11
Obviously I know I don't know nearly as much on this topic as you do, so I generally defer, Sir :) AZJonnie Feb 13 #14
Pretty Much ProfessorGAC Feb 13 #16
Can you name a movie in which one person occupied two places at the same time? Orrex Feb 16 #29
BTTF Is A Prime Example, Yes ProfessorGAC Feb 16 #33
Right, but that's not the same Marty in two places at once Orrex Feb 16 #34
Not Getting You ProfessorGAC Feb 16 #35
I think we're differing on what qualifies as the "same" person Orrex Feb 16 #37
Oh wait. I just caught your bit about "lack of matter available" Orrex Feb 16 #38
These tools don't just fabricate fiction. They fabricate citations in law and science pieces. RockRaven Feb 13 #6
Yes. I mentioned that in the earlier thread I linked to. I've posted lots of warnings here over the last few years highplainsdem Feb 13 #10
+1. AI is essentially a smooth-talking buzzword-spewing bullshitter with an unlimited capacity for plagiarism dalton99a Feb 13 #12
Exactly. highplainsdem Feb 15 #18
When ChatGPT became popular, people said AI systems really need to provide sources. Renew Deal Feb 15 #24
Good catch Renew Deal Feb 15 #23
Thanks - but I wouldn't have caught it if I hadn't already looked at a number of websites about the story so highplainsdem Feb 16 #25
Yikes. So how do we combat this? It's only going to get worse. Scrivener7 Feb 16 #26
Yeah, it's getting scary. I posted something I didn't know was AI. I took it down as soon as mucifer Feb 16 #28
It's really bad in the political commentary video space Renew Deal Feb 16 #31
I suspect AI systems will be like fish farms. cachukis Feb 16 #30
I miss the old Google. Hell, I miss the old Alta Vista. haele Feb 16 #32
Anyone can make up a quote. GoCubsGo Feb 16 #36
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