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haele

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32. I miss the old Google. Hell, I miss the old Alta Vista.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:34 AM
Feb 16

When my oldest grandchild was around two and a half, we were building a toddler's Ikea furniture set, a step stool that could act as a small bench and table she could eat from when doing TV Dinner night, a toddler's chair, and that ubiquitous 28" square side table for a craft and learning table.

She strongly insisted on helping. Okay, learning experience.

The step stool was the only Item that survived her "helping", because she got bored and hungry, wandered off to get a snack - and we did all the difficult work and only let her tighten a few screws we had started for her.
She was really upset the chair wasn't working out and the table legs kept falling out.
So, we told her Grandma the engineer would look it over, see where the factory got it wrong, and fix the factory problems, then she could finish the furniture.
I got another chair and table (and swedish meatball dinner kit) after work the next day, put them mostly together in the family car before coming in, and Grandpa Lazy oversaw her "finish" putting her furniture together while Grandma put together the dinner.

AI bots remind me of the average young toddler putting together more complex Ikea furniture.
Physically and conceptually not quite there yet...

The question is whether or not they can actually grow, or if they remain LLMs with a veneer of autonomy.
Since the variety of functionality and complex operations that enable brain function and human thinking and intuitions (let alone those of less complex species) is still not understood at all, it's rather difficult for me to believe AI as it is now, based on 1's and 0's, can reach the actual self awareness and evolutionary learning drives that the biological based computer - a brain - can achieve.

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Thx to you & Goonch SheltieLover Feb 13 #1
Lol for fun I asked an AI the reason for the discrepancy and gave it the passage from your post AZJonnie Feb 13 #2
Not sure what you mean. It quoted one of my replies in that Science Fiction thread, or it quoted highplainsdem Feb 13 #4
I mean it literally sourced from this very thread AZJonnie Feb 13 #7
Claude is clueless. There is an actual story. I posted links about it in the earlier thread I linked to. There highplainsdem Feb 13 #9
It's not surprising that it got confused, this entire discussion is extremely circular AZJonnie Feb 13 #13
I would've expected any bot to at least follow the links in both threads, which would have shown that highplainsdem Feb 13 #15
Claude would have seen this bit, in Goonch's follow-up, which said this: AZJonnie Feb 13 #17
Interesting seeing you try to defend Claude's inane answer, when this thread links to the older thread highplainsdem Feb 15 #19
I guess I am, given you don't know what the actual prompt was, yet are arbitrarily coming up with a strawman AZJonnie Feb 15 #20
If there was anything close to intelligence in Claude, the highplainsdem Feb 15 #21
Why must you insist it's a delusional tangent AZJonnie Feb 15 #22
No, the problem using genAI is with genAI and its inherent flaws. Anyone who's ever used genAI should highplainsdem Feb 16 #27
And, The Chatbot Is Still Wrong ProfessorGAC Feb 13 #3
+1. It's patent nonsense dalton99a Feb 13 #5
I don't know about that one, Professor :) AZJonnie Feb 13 #8
I'm Going To Say No ProfessorGAC Feb 13 #11
Obviously I know I don't know nearly as much on this topic as you do, so I generally defer, Sir :) AZJonnie Feb 13 #14
Pretty Much ProfessorGAC Feb 13 #16
Can you name a movie in which one person occupied two places at the same time? Orrex Feb 16 #29
BTTF Is A Prime Example, Yes ProfessorGAC Feb 16 #33
Right, but that's not the same Marty in two places at once Orrex Feb 16 #34
Not Getting You ProfessorGAC Feb 16 #35
I think we're differing on what qualifies as the "same" person Orrex Feb 16 #37
Oh wait. I just caught your bit about "lack of matter available" Orrex Feb 16 #38
These tools don't just fabricate fiction. They fabricate citations in law and science pieces. RockRaven Feb 13 #6
Yes. I mentioned that in the earlier thread I linked to. I've posted lots of warnings here over the last few years highplainsdem Feb 13 #10
+1. AI is essentially a smooth-talking buzzword-spewing bullshitter with an unlimited capacity for plagiarism dalton99a Feb 13 #12
Exactly. highplainsdem Feb 15 #18
When ChatGPT became popular, people said AI systems really need to provide sources. Renew Deal Feb 15 #24
Good catch Renew Deal Feb 15 #23
Thanks - but I wouldn't have caught it if I hadn't already looked at a number of websites about the story so highplainsdem Feb 16 #25
Yikes. So how do we combat this? It's only going to get worse. Scrivener7 Feb 16 #26
Yeah, it's getting scary. I posted something I didn't know was AI. I took it down as soon as mucifer Feb 16 #28
It's really bad in the political commentary video space Renew Deal Feb 16 #31
I suspect AI systems will be like fish farms. cachukis Feb 16 #30
I miss the old Google. Hell, I miss the old Alta Vista. haele Feb 16 #32
Anyone can make up a quote. GoCubsGo Feb 16 #36
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