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In reply to the discussion: I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all]
Bettie
(19,527 posts)68. Parents need to teach their boys
to be better.
We've made an effort to teach our boys to be respectful to everyone.
Do they talk shit about people sometimes? Yes, usually because that person has annoyed them...but, none of them really use social media, their choice, they had free rein on what they did online, with the understanding that we could check their browser history at any time.
I think they saw how their dad treats women/girls and followed his lead.
So, yeah, boys CAN be respectful and decent, but it takes work, attention, and positive male role models.
For those who suggest that girls and women should just not use social media because some men and boys can't behave....Fuck that.
Women should not have to leave spaces (physical or digital) because some people choose to be toxic.
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I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all]
marble falls
18 hrs ago
OP
There is a cure for all these, but no one wants to do it...UNSUBSCRIBE to ALL of it! That is the CURE!
Escurumbele
16 hrs ago
#24
Because we let them. Because there is no credible protest against this. Because this
Scrivener7
9 hrs ago
#136
What about having men police themselves? How many men call out other men for their hateful comments and threats?
ihaveaquestion
13 hrs ago
#86
Using "male" as an adjective rather than a noun is appropriate. Here's a link
spooky3
9 hrs ago
#143
I doubt there are many men on this forum who disagree that there are men who are disrespectful to women, and
Doodley
5 hrs ago
#186
Why anyone still uses any Zuckerberg product is beyond me. No one needs that and they're
Scrivener7
17 hrs ago
#3
Same here, and I'm a 78-year-old man with a wife and sisters. Email, and DU is the extent of my online activity.
usaf-vet
15 hrs ago
#52
Then, at the very least, there needs to be a movement demanding adequate moderation.
Scrivener7
13 hrs ago
#80
It brought back the memory of then PM Golda Meir's response when men suggested she enact a curfew for women
Attilatheblond
10 hrs ago
#127
But, it seems, there are only two available options: leave the source, or demand
Scrivener7
13 hrs ago
#83
I'm not going to pretend to have a solution, but this is not just about social media spaces.
Ilikepurple
9 hrs ago
#144
I'm in no way dismissive of her concerns. And I've said elsewhere in the thread
Scrivener7
9 hrs ago
#149
The issue is that the abuse does not stop online. The piece was a plea for change not a request for personal advice
Ilikepurple
8 hrs ago
#161
I'm not dismissing anything. I never said anything about the banning children idea being outlandish, in fact
Scrivener7
8 hrs ago
#163
I'm sorry. I apologize for mixing some of your comments with another member.
Ilikepurple
6 hrs ago
#178
Boys will stop that behaviour when they find out it is not cool, when there is no one on social media, besides
Escurumbele
16 hrs ago
#26
Amazing to me how the victim is always held responsible because "we all know men can't help speaking ...
marble falls
15 hrs ago
#58
Telling girls to get off social media doesn't solve the problem and it's a bit like
spooky3
10 hrs ago
#130
Progressive Democrats don't develop lifelong issues with self-esteem and trust
Scrivener7
9 hrs ago
#138
Do you see anything being done that indicates the bad behavior is being discouraged?
Scrivener7
9 hrs ago
#145
So there are places these kids could go and be safe instead of instagram. I wish they would.
Scrivener7
9 hrs ago
#151
We could just tell kids all their parents are on instagram. That'll send them running away.
Scrivener7
8 hrs ago
#156
So what do you do to protect your fifteen year old daughter from this right now?
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#106
We do have that history. But I'm not seeing the will to apply it to social media.
Scrivener7
10 hrs ago
#129
I'm not sure you could make a ban on using instagram stick for a 15-year-old.
MineralMan
11 hrs ago
#123
Yes. Your response is unsatisfactory because it's amazingly naive. "Calling out" these assaults has never done anything
Scrivener7
10 hrs ago
#131
What do you suggest? Imagine you're this fifteen year old's mother. What do you do?
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#105
I totally agree. There should be a major protest against this. But there isn't. I can't fathom why. But there isn't.
Scrivener7
10 hrs ago
#132
This isn't a woman. This is a child. And she is being abused. I'd forbid instagram in a heartbeat.
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#111
Absolutely. We only get better products when we demand better products. And sometimes
Scrivener7
9 hrs ago
#133
She's not a woman. She's a child. And she's being abused. What would you do to stop that
Scrivener7
11 hrs ago
#112
"Suppose social media platforms required them to use their REAL names, and not some made-up handle."
MichMan
15 hrs ago
#55
The juvenile males who own and run social media are intentionally responsible for this.
Clouds Passing
17 hrs ago
#9
Dehumanizing hatred at such a young age seems difficult to avoid in the 21 century
Torchlight
17 hrs ago
#10
Women, myself included, have spent lifetimes doing that. And yet here we are.
Scrivener7
13 hrs ago
#91
OK, but I'll continue to call out sexism and misogyny when I encounter it.
MineralMan
12 hrs ago
#96
We all do that. You are not unique in that. It doesn't change anything about the abuse this child is facing.
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#98
Imagine she is your child. Are you going to feel like the solution is to wait until the culture
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#97
I share your concern about keeping youth safe from harmful online content.
Torchlight
12 hrs ago
#101
I totally agree. But in the meantime, my kid would not be allowed to go near it.
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#104
Do you think tens of millions of Democratic men don't stand up for women's rights? Come on! Please!
Doodley
9 hrs ago
#141
So we should all be banned from using the words male and female except for the animal kingdom? Are you kidding?
Doodley
11 hrs ago
#118
Please! I am a man who respects women. Every Thanksgiving dinner I make a speech that I want to see more women
Doodley
11 hrs ago
#120
It says "men," not some men, not certain men, not a small percentage of men, but "men."
Doodley
10 hrs ago
#125
Please! If I said "women are a problem," does that sound okay to you? I don't think that is acceptable.
Doodley
9 hrs ago
#140
She isn't a young girl. She takes offense at "female," so at least, let's not call her a "young girl."
Doodley
5 hrs ago
#184
If I said "women are the problem," would you say that was acceptable? I would not ever say that as it is offensive and
Doodley
5 hrs ago
#185
Do you know what my race is? Where I was born? If I have a disability? What my religion is? No. Please don't stereotype
Doodley
5 hrs ago
#187
I'm not sure I spoke to any of those things other than mentioning marginalization.
Ilikepurple
3 hrs ago
#191
I completely understand why many women may want to have little to do with men. Sometimes it seems like men are a blight
Fil1957
15 hrs ago
#44
I get that entirely. I do not crowd women or children because I don't want to cause them fear that I am one ...
marble falls
14 hrs ago
#69
I don't think I've ever seen you stray even into the neighborhood of mansplaining.
Scrivener7
8 hrs ago
#154
Social media is a great source of people, families to keep in touch. It's beautiful. BUT
bluestarone
15 hrs ago
#46
Incels think this about women, and they're pissed because they aren't getting in on anyone's count at all.
marble falls
14 hrs ago
#67
Even my husband gets the Proverbial Pissed Off when he hears how some men think of females.
chouchou
14 hrs ago
#64
But that means this fifteen year old has to endure this until the culture changes.
Scrivener7
13 hrs ago
#94
I'm speaking as someone whose only social media is DU, so I understand that I am
Scrivener7
12 hrs ago
#110
I wonder if people who grew up with this will be more careful with their own children.
Scrivener7
8 hrs ago
#165
I LOVE that idea of a flip phone for school! And I love to hear there is more healthy fear of this shit.
Scrivener7
7 hrs ago
#171
I'll be watching for those posts about your epiphanies. It sounds interesting.
Scrivener7
7 hrs ago
#170
And god forgive an action movie features a woman or person of color..only a white male can save the world
BlueWaveNeverEnd
13 hrs ago
#77