Has Sen. Kristen Gillibrand demanded that Rep Tony Gonzalez resign yet? Asking for Al Franken.

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51. So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives...

... this is more or less (mostly more) an accusation that he's "probably guilty of something" at some point in his life, and that he "probably" deserved this as punishment for something that may (or may not) have happened when he was on SNL, for example. And right on cue... here we go again with the "he could have done this" or "he could have done that" ... he could have fought, he could have stayed, he could have not resigned, he could have run again (blah blah blah) and these things are put forth with absolutely ZERO acknowledgement or awareness that such a thing would have not been good for the party. The damage had been done. The bandwagon effect had taken hold. It was trendy to attack Franken... and ultimately by "not attacking him" (and not hopping on the bandwagon) politicians risked their own careers, or risked being accused of not-supporting-women or not-believing-women. Someone "being reelected" does not justify or excuse their unfair and unjust treatment of Franken... it's unclear how this was meant to be a serious defense of those who made the wrong choice to attack and smear him.

The calls to "move on" are just code for "he deserved what he got". I get it. --- I'll always disagree, but I get it. --- You do you. Clearly, we're going around in circles here. Neither of us will change the other's mind. In the meantime, feel free to continue this "discussion" however you will do so without me. Bye.