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delisen

(7,312 posts)
57. Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer?
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 12:18 PM
21 hrs ago

I supported Franken and asked him to not resign but to go through the process.

However Gillibrand has spent years holding military accountable for vile treatment of women. Many democrats unfortunately have never educated themselves about her work.

It was the leader who demanded Franken’s resignation.

Gillibrand acted in accordance with her principles and her consistent history of defending women.

Schumer perhaps had his own reasons.


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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh Yesterday #6
No SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg 23 hrs ago #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg 23 hrs ago #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis 22 hrs ago #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 16 hrs ago #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy 17 hrs ago #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool 22 hrs ago #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 16 hrs ago #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #101
OK... eom Karma13612 37 min ago #127
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker 18 hrs ago #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 16 hrs ago #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em 16 hrs ago #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 16 hrs ago #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 16 hrs ago #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #110
That's the false narrative iemanja 13 hrs ago #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW Yesterday #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #13
Indeed she did DFW 23 hrs ago #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA 22 hrs ago #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW 20 hrs ago #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA 19 hrs ago #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 18 hrs ago #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady 21 hrs ago #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW 20 hrs ago #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady 19 hrs ago #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW 18 hrs ago #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW 20 hrs ago #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja 12 hrs ago #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge 23 hrs ago #28
Oh, sure DFW 20 hrs ago #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge 19 hrs ago #64
So do I DFW 18 hrs ago #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge 18 hrs ago #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW 18 hrs ago #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 16 hrs ago #99
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #107
Gillibrand led the charge RVN VET71 2 hrs ago #124
Making a Facebook post is leading the charge? SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #125
GREAT POINT MoseShrute Yesterday #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck Yesterday #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck Yesterday #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 16 hrs ago #95
. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg 23 hrs ago #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg 22 hrs ago #35
Hear, hear. peppertree 22 hrs ago #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg 21 hrs ago #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen 21 hrs ago #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 16 hrs ago #100
K & R malaise Yesterday #4
Good question samsingh Yesterday #5
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #8
No MustLoveBeagles 23 hrs ago #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 23 hrs ago #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 23 hrs ago #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 22 hrs ago #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 22 hrs ago #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 22 hrs ago #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #53
Political rival? karynnj 22 hrs ago #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em 20 hrs ago #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em 18 hrs ago #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing 23 hrs ago #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy 23 hrs ago #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx 23 hrs ago #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB 22 hrs ago #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo 21 hrs ago #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #72
You betcha... PCIntern 23 hrs ago #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em 22 hrs ago #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt 18 hrs ago #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia 17 hrs ago #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia 17 hrs ago #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems 16 hrs ago #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 16 hrs ago #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 12 hrs ago #120
Yes, women should be quiet, especially when sexual harassment is being discussed Jose Garcia 35 min ago #128
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 16 hrs ago #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 14 hrs ago #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 13 hrs ago #119
Absolutely Al graycampervan 9 hrs ago #122
No, that was Ted Kennedy SocialDemocrat61 1 hr ago #126
Gillibrand BGRD 6 hrs ago #123
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