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ToxMarz

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51. Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula.

Sat Mar 14, 2026, 08:41 PM

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Doctors with years of medical school and residency's and certifications can be shitty doctors, sued for malpractice, lose their licenses. One would think she may be qualified but how do you know in an emergency situation when more qualified persons believe so strongly she is wrong. People aren't always as objective when it comes to personal decisions and her judgement could be clouded.

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They Didn't Want to Have C-Sections. A Judge Would Decide How They Gave Birth. [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Saturday OP

a 3 hr hearing when she is in ACTIVE LABOR??!!!! mopinko Saturday #1

Wow. That is appalling. The child is more important than the woman, no matter what. Biophilic Saturday #2

Extreme situation. But perhaps it was the safest option for woman and child. paleotn Saturday #4

What's extreme about this situation is forcing someone who's in active labor into a court hearing to establish legally WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #5

What about dying makes it unacceptable? paleotn Saturday #6

People make medical decisions that result in their own deaths all the time. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #7

And that's perfectly fine with me. paleotn Saturday #37

You're reccing your own posts? Crunchy Frog Yesterday #67

So what. I didn't rec if 4 TIMES paleotn Yesterday #76

Exhibit A: all those Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse blood transfusions for themselves OR their children. ShazzieB Saturday #39

The pregnant woman's profession was assisting women to deliver safely....got it? Hope22 Saturday #9

Exactly what part of viable, at term, and in fetal distress do you not fucking understand? paleotn Saturday #38

Your last sentence... GenThePerservering Saturday #42

Tell that to the person who I responded to, not me. paleotn Saturday #43

The hearing was three hours long. Quiet Em Saturday #46

She was in labor for 12 freaking hours!!!!!! paleotn Saturday #47

and? Quiet Em Saturday #48

And? An obstetrics team is going to go to all that trouble unless it's for a good reason? paleotn Saturday #57

No, I'm not an OB-GYN and neither are you. Quiet Em Saturday #59

SO WHAT!? paleotn Yesterday #75

You seem to believe you know a lot Quiet Em Yesterday #77

And you know that how? paleotn Yesterday #78

What crap has your partner seen many, many times? Quiet Em Yesterday #79

Fine. You don't want trained, profession opinion, go treat yourself. paleotn Yesterday #80

Why are you so hostile? Quiet Em Yesterday #81

Ah, you're being omniscient again. paleotn Yesterday #82

My son was born after 30 hrs. of labor. Whats your point? Lochloosa Saturday #50

Medical professionals didn't go to this extreme unless there was good reason. paleotn Saturday #56

12 hours of labor is NOT. VERY. LONG. Crunchy Frog Yesterday #68

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The woman stated she had already had a life threatening complication from a C Section. Hope22 Saturday #61

Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice the lives of some full term fetuses to protect women's rights to bodily autonomy. Crunchy Frog Yesterday #66

It was the woman's profession, but in her own case she was not making the safest decision karynnj Saturday #44

3 prior c-sections Freddie Saturday #53

Completely agree karynnj Saturday #54

My first was a C-section buzzycrumbhunger Saturday #58

If ONLY the decision was based on the health and welfare of the mother... the existing slightlv Saturday #45

The patient in question is a doula. usedtobedemgurl Saturday #49

Because she's a doula doesn't mean she is a good doula. ToxMarz Saturday #51

Sure. Of course a judge knows better. Ok. usedtobedemgurl Yesterday #62

No, I am not saying that ToxMarz Yesterday #74

Ok usedtobedemgurl Yesterday #83

I worked in that field. When you're in the hospital, you don't have a choice. LeftInTX Saturday #20

It's not as rare as people think, and it doesn't matter if someone thinks it's "safest". Crunchy Frog Yesterday #65

only the fetus stage Kali Saturday #8

Yup, the kid is on his or her own. Biophilic Saturday #19

It seems to me... GiqueCee Saturday #34

... Solly Mack Saturday #3

Whose body is it? dlk Saturday #10

In states like Florida, the state has control over a woman's body erronis Saturday #11

It's not just Florida. In almost 30 states, hospitals can override the advance directives of pregnant people. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #14

Darwin's body. paleotn Saturday #36

Jeezus. If men gave birth, this would not be a thing. Joinfortmill Saturday #12

Eh, men do give birth and it still is a thing, but likely because of the discrimination trans men face. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #13

I've had four c-sections Mossfern Saturday #15

I'm so glad you and your babies survived these! erronis Saturday #17

Thank you for this thoughtful post. LisaM Saturday #21

I think the trauma Mossfern Saturday #24

I was a nurse in newborn. LeftInTX Saturday #23

I was surprised to learn episiotomies aren't recommended anymore Sympthsical Saturday #33

I had three kids: LeftInTX Saturday #35

Interesting. Thank you for sharing! Sympthsical Saturday #55

I have also had four c-sections. Bettie Yesterday #72

Beyond appalling. Mother first, unless both can be saved & the mother's wishes unclear (& she is hlthe2b Saturday #16

I was going to share this. Thank you so much for doing it! ... littlemissmartypants Saturday #18

Hands off women's wombs. perverts! GreenWave Saturday #22

Women of reproductive age need to get the hell out of Florida. This is absurd. Quiet Em Saturday #25

I see no reason for a judge to be called into this. Ilsa Saturday #26

If it's an emergency C-Sect, fetal distress, certain maternal conditions, unknown fetal conditions etc. LeftInTX Saturday #28

Oh, I know, I've been there. I was relieved when Ilsa Saturday #29

This message was self-deleted by its author MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #31

That sounds terrifying MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #32

I lived in a county that for a time had the highest Ilsa Saturday #27

Wondering... MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #30

I read the ProPublica article cksmithy Saturday #40

Glad I posted this thread. It's good to get a reminder about just how easily so many people are willing to sign away WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #41

3 prior c-sections are a HUGE risk. But, AllyCat Saturday #52

This story really bothered me so I did some more research Quiet Em Saturday #60

This is like Rosemary's baby! C Moon Yesterday #63

This is absolutely disgusting. Under no circumstances should women ever be robbed of the right to Crunchy Frog Yesterday #64

Interesting to see how much anti-choice sentiment there really is here on DU. Article and the responses Crunchy Frog Yesterday #69

Agree. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #71

OMG 😳 this is insane. The hospital was so wrong in this. If it was me I would be so furious what they did TommieMommy Yesterday #70