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71. The Comey indictment could be upended by this 2015 Supreme Court precedent
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 08:52 PM
Apr 30

The high court a decade ago explicitly overturned the legal standard that prosecutors are now citing to charge Comey with threatening President Trump.

The Comey indictment could be upended by this 2015 Supreme Court precedent www.washingtonpost.com/national-sec...

Timothy McBride (@mcbridetd.bsky.social) 2026-05-01T00:24:04.224Z

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/04/30/comey-indictment-supreme-court-precedent

The criminal indictment of former FBI director James B. Comey for allegedly threatening President Donald Trump appears to fall short of a standard articulated by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. in a 2015 opinion, when the Supreme Court pointedly distinguished a genuine threat from mere speech, legal analysts say.

Roberts, along with a majority of the court, ruled in the 2015 case Elonis v. United States that prosecutors seeking to convict someone of sending a dangerous message must prove the person intended to make a violent threat — or at least knew there was a substantial chance it would be viewed as threatening......

The charges focus on a photo that Comey posted last year showing seashells on a beach arranged to spell out “86 47.” Because 86 can signify “to get rid of,” and President Donald Trump is the 47th president, prosecutors say the shells’ arrangement means “a reasonable recipient” would interpret the message as “a serious expression of an intent to do harm” to Trump.

But that language is from an older, lower legal standard, one that the Supreme Court explicitly overruled in the 2015 case. Eight legal experts interviewed for this article said the Comey indictment fails to provide evidence that the former FBI director intended his social media message as a genuine threat to the president.

Under court rules, prosecutors are obligated to shape the language of their charges to conform with the current state of the law......

The indictment lacks an essential element of a true threat crime — mainly that the speaker intended to threaten violence, or acted in conscious disregard of the substantial risk that their communication would be viewed as threatening,” said Cole, a former national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. “They don’t allege any of that in the indictment.”....

In 2015, the Supreme Court had another chance to define what constitutes a threat and what is speech protected under the Constitution — and they set the threshold even higher.

In the Elonis case, which centered on a Pennsylvania man who made potentially threatening statements online, the justices concluded that the mindset of the person who made the comment must be considered. It is not enough for the subject of a comment to view it as a threat, they ruled; the person who made it must have intended it that way.

Eight years later, in Counterman v. Colorado, the Supreme Court reaffirmed Elonis and tweaked the definition a bit, saying prosecutors could also prove that the person making the statement understood that there was a substantial risk the comment would viewed as threatening.

The charges laid out in the Comey indictment, legal analysts said, do not allege that this threshold was met. Instead, the indictment cites the legal standard laid out in the Supreme Court’s Watts opinion, one it subsequently overturned......

Prosecutors appeared to nod to the higher standard in the indictment, alleging that Comey “knowingly and willingly” threatened the life of the president. But legal analysts interviewed said that language alone does not meet the legal standard set by the Supreme Court.

I really had fun reading this legal analysis. I quoted the Watts case in some other posts. Here is clear that this indictment is using a standard that the SCOTUS has rejected and that this indictment would fail under the current state of the law as announced by SCOTUS. This indictment was issued in bad faith and will not survive pass a motion to dismiss.

Blanche is ignoring established SCOTUS precedent

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Seriously? BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 28 #1
If it were not actual harassment ... reACTIONary Apr 28 #19
This is a classic example of a SLAPP LAWSUIT,.. magicarpet Apr 28 #59
SLAPP lawsuits are private litigation LetMyPeopleVote Apr 30 #67
I was hopping to convey this new Comey litigation about the sea shells on the beach that offended trdump,... magicarpet Apr 30 #68
This indictment was brought in bad faith and vindictive purposes LetMyPeopleVote Apr 30 #69
I hope you are right about a court tossing this case out the front door of the courthouse magicarpet Apr 30 #70
Really? MustLoveBeagles Apr 28 #2
Refuse service or blackball is not a death threat. Trump's DOJ is lying. blm Apr 28 #3
FFS...I hate these "people". Lochloosa Apr 28 #4
SPLC just asked for transcripts in their case. Comey should do the same. jls4561 Apr 28 #5
Sounds AI orthoclad Apr 28 #6
Artificial Intelgence isn't THAT stupid... reACTIONary Apr 28 #21
Stupid it ain't orthoclad Apr 28 #56
Yes, it is harassment, and, I think.... reACTIONary Apr 28 #58
djt's new poodle lap dog Todd Blanche is trying to out do his predecessor, magicarpet Apr 28 #57
Lol what a waste of taxpayer money SSJVegeta Apr 28 #7
Nowhere does 86 mean murder C_U_L8R Apr 28 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 28 #31
Well, he's killing me. C_U_L8R Apr 28 #35
"Also" -- as in one of several meanings, and not necessarily the principal meaning or the meaning intended by Comey onenote Apr 28 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 28 #40
Wikipedia? Here's Webster's Dictionary definition; which is recognized worldwide. Callie1979 Apr 28 #42
If that's it, I so want to be on that jury. sinkingfeeling Apr 28 #9
Probably doesn't have anything to do with this: MorbidButterflyTat Apr 28 #10
This will be laughed out of court. Again. NT Happy Hoosier Apr 28 #11
So all those people 86'd from bars and restaurants... -misanthroptimist Apr 28 #12
At this point, I think these are intended as nuisance indictments VMA131Marine Apr 28 #13
trump wants to see a perp walk. Of ANYONE. Callie1979 Apr 28 #44
I would defend myself and seek restitution for the effort... Moostache Apr 28 #52
Total weaponization of the doj....trmp's lapdog todd spanone Apr 28 #14
2pidfux IA8IT Apr 28 #15
Hard to believe that a grand jury would indict on that nonsense. Jim__ Apr 28 #16
exactly my thought Skittles Apr 28 #27
They shopped until tgey happy feet Apr 28 #38
Apparently the Eastern District of NC is where Comey posted from. onenote Apr 28 #41
This will never reach a jury. Any judge will throw it out. CanonRay Apr 28 #17
How do you present this as a case? Buckeyeblue Apr 28 #18
The seashells? "We were coorced into... reACTIONary Apr 28 #22
Bwah! electric_blue68 Apr 28 #32
Toad Blanche gunning for AG. moondust Apr 28 #20
Now Blanche, Patel, and HS dude are repeating each other Ilsa Apr 28 #23
Loose associations and thought disorders The Wizard Apr 28 #24
How much is this sham Mossfern Apr 28 #25
Hillary's emails don't seem so bad now, do they Comey? Skittles Apr 28 #26
I think of this every time I read Comey's name Seinan Sensei Apr 28 #62
he makes me sick Skittles Apr 28 #63
SQUIRREL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IA8IT Apr 28 #28
How far our FBI and DOJ have fallen, is anyone left that protects the Constitution? dem4decades Apr 28 #29
MaddowBlog-Comey's second indictment shows the lengths Blanche will go to please Trump LetMyPeopleVote Apr 28 #30
Hitler's AG wears official WH kneepads 24/7 to service his Fhrer at a moments notice nt yaesu Apr 28 #60
Please tell me this is the Omion.... It's gotta be the Onion.....🤦‍♂️ ashredux Apr 28 #33
There is no justice dept. They may as well Figarosmom Apr 28 #34
I put "86" and "47" in the corner of the envelopes I pay my bills with, tonekat Apr 28 #36
Hey Comey. How does it feel to be railroaded over nonsense? Irish_Dem Apr 28 #37
There's a real cottage industry of "86 47" merchandise. Are they going to arrest all Internet sellers? Vinca Apr 28 #43
86 means get rid of, remove, or refuse service, in the hospitality biz Swede Apr 28 #45
That'll be thrown out. Absolute rubbish. Joinfortmill Apr 28 #46
Comey's case will be "86ed". oasis Apr 28 #49
Boogie woogie blue plate struggle4progress Apr 28 #47
Vexatious prosecution Bo Zarts Apr 28 #48
Box O Wine Pirro strikes again!! madinmaryland Apr 28 #50
Watts v. United States (1969)-Court said anti-war protester's threat was crude political hyperbole LetMyPeopleVote Apr 28 #51
Another example of Trump Admin ineptitude... AntiFascist Apr 28 #53
Okay, so Comey SHARED a picture. hamsterjill Apr 28 #54
Indict GOD... lame54 Apr 28 #55
I hope those who want Comey indicted don't get used to this. cab67 Apr 28 #61
still Skittles Apr 28 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote Apr 30 #65
MaddowBlog-Trump tries to defend Comey case, says seashell message 'probably' put his life in danger LetMyPeopleVote Apr 30 #66
The Comey indictment could be upended by this 2015 Supreme Court precedent LetMyPeopleVote Apr 30 #71
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