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QueerDuck

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3. UK and US politics and elections are different. This ad would not work well here...
Sat May 2, 2026, 03:24 PM
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because the UK Greens are playing a different game. They're a minor party in a multi-party system, so their job is to be the 'pure' alternative to fire up a specific 5% of the population.

In the US, the Democrats have to actually win 50.1% of the vote in a two-party system. If they ran ads that only appealed to the 'already converted' on the far left, they’d lose the center-right and moderate voters they need to actually win an election. It’s the difference between being a loud voice on the sidelines and actually having the keys to the building. While something like this fires up the base, it's risky for a national US party. Moderate messaging is more effective for high-stakes general elections where the goal is to be "credible" rather than just "radical".

In the UK, the Green Party doesn't expect to win a majority. Their ads are designed for a multi-party system where "winning" can mean getting 5–10% of the vote to secure a few seats or influence a coalition. They can afford to be "pure" and "angry" because they are building a niche brand. Recently, the Greens celebrated their "best ever" result by winning just 4 seats out of 650. 🥳🎉

In our two-party system, a major party like the Democrats must build a "Big Tent" coalition. To actually govern, they have to win over moderate and center-right voters in swing states. An ad that thrills a far-left activist on discussion forums is often the exact same ad that alienates a rural voter in Pennsylvania.

But, I take your point. It's a great ad... for them... over there.

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Democrats, are you listening? Beartracks Saturday #1
Thank you. Three things I love about this: 1/ He looks and talks like an ordinary guy, not a political leader. Doodley Saturday #2
Polanski was an actor before going into politics. No wonder it looks so good, like a short film. betsuni Sunday #50
UK and US politics and elections are different. This ad would not work well here... QueerDuck Saturday #3
Thank you for your reply. You are right, it would not work in a presidential election. Doodley Saturday #5
Radical? Cirsium Saturday #7
Thank you. It's certainly a lot less radical than the "They are eating the cats and dogs" campaign. Doodley Saturday #10
That ad would fly just fine here in this old-folks-community. Magoo48 Saturday #29
Though they are appealing to more than 5-10% - between 10 and 20% in recent national polls muriel_volestrangler Saturday #16
And yet - wouldn't a strong Green Party showing mostly end up benefiting the Tories? peppertree Saturday #27
By now, it's Reform who benefits from the split on the left muriel_volestrangler Saturday #31
One for the bookmarks. Thank you! peppertree Saturday #35
Just to add to Muriel's statistics there, and put Plaid Cymru and the SNP's polling in context, Emrys Sunday #42
LOL Mysterian Saturday #17
oh you are so right, right now mountain grammy Saturday #18
Exactly what part of what he said doesn't apply to the situations we currently face? flashman13 Saturday #19
The only candidate that actually seems to be replicating this on a statewide race SSJVegeta Saturday #24
I honestly believe the primaries are going to produce more Talarico and Platners. flashman13 Saturday #28
one can hope!! SSJVegeta Saturday #32
Its almost exactly what is working in deep red texas SSJVegeta Saturday #21
We got Pearland, TX last night - the mayor is now a dem! TBF Sunday #49
I think that this would be great Luvcatz14 Sunday #40
Democrats are ALREADY the party for the people and NOT corporate greed... why suggest differently? QueerDuck Sunday #41
Kamala Harris recently said just about the same thing as the video in a little different way. Smokster Sunday #45
Given Americans of all political leanings are currently struggling, dlk Sunday #43
The green party here in the U.S. popsdenver Saturday #4
Thank you. Yes, I agree! They only appear at election time and green issues don't even seem to be a priority! Doodley Saturday #6
Jill Stein popsdenver Saturday #39
It's the same in the UK BannonsLiver Sunday #48
The wealthy are doing very well IronLionZion Saturday #8
I've never heard it put that way. It's very sad, but true. I will use it in future! Doodley Saturday #11
If wealthy people trickled it down, they wouldn't be so wealthy IronLionZion Saturday #37
Reading some of the replies to this post was very discouraging. patphil Saturday #9
I agree canetoad Saturday #12
Thank you. Having lived for decades in the UK, I notice Americans tend to be less likely to see what other nations Doodley Saturday #14
Thank you! 100% Doodley Saturday #13
Thank you. I really wondered how this new Green Party leader has gone from 68,000 members Doodley Saturday #15
Get ready for being labeled an idealist. KPN Saturday #25
DAYUM!!! calimary Saturday #20
For all those people who say that every candidate needs to be a free agent Bluetus Saturday #22
Brilliant malaise Saturday #23
Awesome ad. The criticisms above seem out of touch. Yeah, I don't see a Presidential candidate jogging like this guy KPN Saturday #26
Jon Ossoff's ad is similar without the running, and he Ilsa Saturday #30
He's easy to overlook I think cause he's been around a bit.. But being around as long as he has in Georgia is no small SSJVegeta Saturday #33
Great ad! highplainsdem Saturday #34
Great marketing moxie Gum Logger Saturday #36
K&R spanone Saturday #38
Sounds similar to Graham Platner's campaign. Despite Emile Sunday #44
Yes, capitalism sucks. BlueTsunami2018 Sunday #46
I didn't watch the video. BannonsLiver Sunday #47
Great ad! Jilly_in_VA Sunday #51
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