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karynnj

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88. Wouldn't this be more appropriate in November as he becomes Senator elect?

Mon May 4, 2026, 01:10 PM

May 4

At this point, he has shown what will win a Democratic primary. Not to mention, it could be candidate specific and or state specific.

I think that in November, looking back at all the primaries and the general election might be a time where this type of claim might be made.

My hope is that Democrats in all states vote for candidates who win the general election, even if that was not there number one criteria. My guess is that the message and persona of the nominees will differ by state. It seems premature to claim that someone who has not won the seat yet should be considered as the role model of how to win nationally ... even if he matches his own values.

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Maine Just Delivered a Brutal Wake-Up Call to Democrats. Will It Land? [View all] luv2fly May 4 OP

how goes Maine, so goes the nation. nt Javaman May 4 #1

Up to 1936. Then, it was "as goes Maine, so goes Vermont." DFW May 4 #45

After Maine the bellwether was considered Missouri fujiyamasan Tuesday #165

2026 is not 1936...... Jack Valentino Tuesday #169

The slogan wasn't time-stamped DFW Tuesday #171

Remember the Maine, GreenWave May 4 #128

Yep Aviation Pro May 4 #2

Her biggest sin is being an older women dsc May 4 #3

she sure didn't roll over for the likes of Trump or LePage eShirl May 4 #5

I don't like either her or Platner but yes let's get real JBTaurus83 May 4 #6

if we don't live in Maine, we can't do much about it... still if Platner helps give a Dem Senate, I'll take him LymphocyteLover May 4 #24

I'm thinking he will likely resemble Bernie more than Manchin or Fetterman eShirl May 4 #44

I hope that this is the outcome. JBTaurus83 May 4 #48

Second that. republianmushroom May 4 #141

Works for me NewLarry May 4 #146

.... Skittles Tuesday #163

I don't see Graham Platner turning centrist. Emile May 4 #47

I hope so! JBTaurus83 May 4 #49

Feel your pain yankee87 May 4 #72

Understandable. You have good reason. KPN May 4 #92

Fetterman Mad_Machine76 May 4 #142

And that's OK. We need to stop putting up 79 year olds. It isn't working for us. Scrivener7 May 4 #7

I'm 43 and I feel like I'm out of touch JBTaurus83 May 4 #9

Younger people need to vote in greater numbers. Walleye May 4 #14

It's something I never understand JBTaurus83 May 4 #18

Me neither, I guess they think that not voting is making some sort of statement when Walleye May 4 #21

I think they are just self centered JBTaurus83 May 4 #23

Honestly, I see it as an intellectual laziness. It's just too hard. Walleye May 4 #26

Hence why we have the pig as president. JBTaurus83 May 4 #34

Much easier and more gratifying to read Twitter all day than a history book Walleye May 4 #51

And when you do read history JBTaurus83 May 4 #53

We need mandatory civics classes in high school. SergeStorms May 4 #119

Are there really school districts where that is NOT the case?? Ursus Rex May 4 #125

I'm not sure. SergeStorms Tuesday #172

At 43 you still are young. Katinfl May 4 #27

Thanks, I like that train of thinking lol. JBTaurus83 May 4 #35

I think they don't vote -- or didn't in past elections -- as much as they should because they haven't lived long enough KPN May 4 #101

My son, age 39, NewLarry May 4 #147

Then offer them something to vote for - TBF May 4 #85

All they have to do is make a choice. I don't know what they think they're going to get from it, a pony. Walleye May 4 #99

Whoooooosh .... nt TBF May 4 #106

What is the point of the " pony " insult? questionseverything May 4 #108

Bingo. nt TBF May 4 #112

Not every elderly person is out of touch with the financial difficulties young people face. Bluepinky May 4 #75

I totally agree, Bluepinky! BComplex May 4 #100

Right you are! Wish Bernie had been allowed to run! Bluepinky May 4 #103

keep dreaming Skittles Tuesday #164

Yep or even the changes in the tax code since the early 80s IbogaProject May 4 #117

I agree; we need younger talent as long as they're equally competent. Callie1979 May 4 #90

We need a mix. quakerboy May 4 #97

Yes... displacedvermoter May 4 #28

100% obamanut2012 May 4 #30

Agreed. DFW May 4 #50

While I don't want another Manchin or Sinema or Fetterman dsc May 4 #54

That pesky nazi tatoo RoseTrellis May 4 #68

I can't disagree with that DFW Tuesday #168

Her biggest problem is being a corporate Democrat that always loses to Collins. biocube May 4 #56

She never ran against Collins much less lost to her dsc May 4 #64

. MorbidButterflyTat May 4 #66

"..corporate.." Is That WHy "Gov Mills Stood UP Cha May 4 #123

Sounds like AI mr715 May 4 #158

Not quite Buzz cook May 4 #69

The state party establishment never learns... the nelm May 4 #96

Her biggest sin was literally phoning it in while sitting in her den behind a web cam. Hassin Bin Sober May 4 #94

Hartmann could never bring himself to support HRC. Nothing much has changed. nt pnwmom May 4 #110

Poeple like that is why we got Traitor & Faxcism Cha May 4 #122

I might argue "simply being old" A_Woman_from_MI May 4 #118

It didn't help--- but as an elected Democratic officeholder, she also made Jack Valentino Tuesday #170

Informative article....K & R democrank May 4 #4

There are a few ideas that never get old JBTaurus83 May 4 #10

Hopefully, many Maine voters don't "talk the way" he talks, even if they vote for him displacedvermoter May 4 #33

"and promise real real progressive change" KS Toronado May 4 #8

Yes indeed. Magoo48 May 4 #38

Kick dalton99a May 4 #11

Didnt realize snowybirdie May 4 #12

"People are sick and tired of mealy-mouthed corporate Democrats who run on focus-grouped slogans sop May 4 #13

I don't think yelling at our fellow Democrats and calling them. Names is going to work this time. Walleye May 4 #15

Word BaronChocula May 4 #98

Then being surprised when Democratic supporters object to the yelling, name-calling, accusations. betsuni May 4 #113

And, it's not going to help win the Midterms.. All Cha May 4 #126

Even in private life JBTaurus83 May 4 #16

And, I'm sick of Fucking Fascists Running our Cha May 4 #124

The "New Affordability Agenda" that's a "genuine populist agenda": those are usual Democratic issues, like Harris 2024. betsuni May 4 #17

Neoliberal is not a left/right descriptor, it is an economic ideology Fiendish Thingy May 4 #43

"The uselessness of 'neoliberal' as an analytic tool is the very thing that makes it useful as a factional betsuni May 4 #76

It only documents how the term is used inaccurately Fiendish Thingy May 4 #86

Neoliberal equals Neoconservative Soul_of_Wit May 4 #81

False Fiendish Thingy May 4 #91

Yes MorbidButterflyTat May 4 #67

So does Susan Collins RoseTrellis May 4 #71

Yeah, people vote because of Susan Collins' hog. mr715 May 4 #79

I would love for someone to show me how Graham Platner has "taken on power." WhiskeyGrinder May 4 #19

I think that means strongly worded sentences. betsuni May 4 #20

He hasn't JBTaurus83 May 4 #22

Voters who support Platner hope he will "take on power." sop May 4 #36

People should hold off on popping the champagne. JBTaurus83 May 4 #42

I think that means he bad mouths Schumer. Nixie May 4 #57

He spoke truth to power by running, by talking with the people of Maine questionseverything May 4 #111

Planter needs to "beat" Colins and Stop Trashing Cha May 4 #138

It is yet to be determined. I remember when Fetterman was the shinny new object that everyone was "fawning" over. lostincalifornia May 4 #116

I certainly wish we would of known fetterman would be more loyal to Israel than the United States questionseverything May 4 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia May 4 #157

POdcasts? nt Cha May 4 #129

But does Hartmann JustAnotherGen May 4 #25

Well we know Platner thinks Black Americans don't tip MorbidButterflyTat May 4 #65

America is always looking for a hero Keepthesoulalive May 4 #80

Not in Maine but this is what every Dem voter in my house is saying AllyCat May 4 #29

Most rank and file Dems know our nation is near collapse JBTaurus83 May 4 #37

Yes! We need bamagal62 May 4 #39

Send this to your local party JBTaurus83 May 4 #40

TWS with Jon Stewert did an hour interview with Graham Platner Greyhead May 4 #31

I was skeptical but this interview turned me into a fan. Listening to him rather than people talking ABOUT him does it. Amaryllis May 4 #73

Thank you for posting Thom, gab13by13 May 4 #32

Post removed Post removed May 4 #109

This is a mandatory Progressives angrychair May 4 #41

I really liked Jasmine Crockett. She spoke very plainly and her speeches were brief. LeftInTX May 4 #46

I really like her as well JBTaurus83 May 4 #52

As a Texan, do you think she might have won karynnj May 4 #84

I have heard from Roland Martin that her internal infrastructure was lacking. LeftInTX May 4 #95

She got gerrymandered in Texas, and it's extremely unfair FakeNoose May 4 #104

She is a great leader and I hope she runs for President in 2028. thought crime Tuesday #173

Some math. Maine population is about 1.4 million Nixie May 4 #55

Bernie has the winning message. usonian May 4 #58

Republicans sure seem to be scared of him. biocube May 4 #59

That's why I find it strange that some Dems are still giving him grief Just_Vote_Dem May 4 #61

Your username checks out Soul_of_Wit May 4 #87

They are terrified of the next election. You Emile May 4 #63

I don't think it's progessivism Boo1 May 4 #60

Message auto-removed Name removed May 4 #77

I've been saying since 2016: we are getting populism whether we want it or not. Better ours than theirs. Hassin Bin Sober May 4 #102

What has Platner done to instill such unwavering confidence? MorbidButterflyTat May 4 #62

They'd-damn-better-listen-this-time... Why? betsuni May 4 #93

Brava, MorbidButterfly! I don't like beinG "Threatened" Cha May 4 #143

Why would ANYONE think your post is something the rw would advocate? sheshe2 May 4 #155

Mahalo, she.. For more reasons than one! 💙 ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜 Cha May 4 #156

Dems are overperforming all over! 😃 MorbidButterflyTat May 4 #162

Nothing. mr715 May 4 #159

ANyone listen to Jon Stewart's interview with him? THat made me a fan. Amaryllis May 4 #70

So this guy Platner fought in BUSH/CHENEY phony wars, but not one Nixie May 4 #114

Wow... Saves All his Bashing fo Dems.. and who is Cha May 4 #144

Actually he had a lot to say about the Iraq war and none of it was good.Maybe you skipped that part. Amaryllis May 4 #161

It's not in this interview. Nixie Tuesday #166

I just learned a scary thing from my Mainiac brother about a Maine congressional race. It seems Vinca May 4 #74

Egads, that sucks. He's no spring chicken either. He's got to be close to 80. Emile May 4 #78

Just checked. moose65 May 4 #121

hope he loses as badly as the last time he ran for anything eShirl May 4 #83

Too Early For This! Aepps22 May 4 #82

Wouldn't this be more appropriate in November as he becomes Senator elect? karynnj May 4 #88

I agree. But Thom needs to realize that using AI art and AI music is ALSO pro-corporate and sends a highplainsdem May 4 #89

Completely agree. Joinfortmill May 4 #105

I still remember Hartmann holding back on support for HRC pnwmom May 4 #107

Everyone KNEW what the stakes were in 2016, and where was Hartman? We lost the SC because of jackasses like that who lostincalifornia May 4 #115

Thom Hartmann is a duer. Emile May 4 #127

He's a public figure, however obscure, and we're discussing Nixie May 4 #130

Still not cool attacking a duer. Emile May 4 #131

Thom Hartman is a public figure and the piece he wrote on another Nixie May 4 #132

He's also a member of our community. Emile May 4 #133

He's a public figure, and he wrote something critical of Nixie May 4 #134

Civility Emile May 4 #135

That works both ways. Nixie May 4 #136

I see no personal attacks or flaming Emile May 4 #137

I didn't see it from the poster you targeted either. Just discussing Nixie May 4 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Emile May 4 #140

Yes, "civility works both ways"... Cha May 4 #148

Exactly Cha. The ploys to silence critiques seem to be one-sided. Nixie Tuesday #167

Good. But his comment was not a DU comment, and even if it lostincalifornia May 4 #151

I agree. Democrats need candidates who will kick some ass. lees1975 May 4 #120

Post removed Post removed May 4 #145

We Need to Cha May 4 #149

I'll take anything I can get. Glaisne May 4 #153

I did NOT SEE that coming... WarGamer May 4 #150

Trump campaigned on the affordability issue, Now he claims it is a hoax. Norrrm May 4 #154

Sorta. mr715 May 4 #160