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In reply to the discussion: Should the Dems expand the SCOTUS to 13 justices [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(181,598 posts)97. MaddowBlog-Why John Roberts' defense of the Supreme Court was so wildly unpersuasive
Justices should consider not only why most believe the high court is motivated by politics, but also their own role in fueling the problem they find offensive.
Why John Robertsâ defense of the Supreme Court was so wildly unpersuasive www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
— Philly Joe (@joehick58.bsky.social) 2026-05-07T22:39:16.924Z
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/john-roberts-defense-supreme-court-unpersuasive
Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts is clearly aware of public perceptions related to the high court, though he apparently wants Americans to see him and fellow justices as above the political fray. The Associated Press reported on his latest public remarks:
As part of the same remarks, Roberts went on to argue that sitting justices are not part of the political process and Im not sure people grasp that as much as is appropriate......
Why does the public see the justices, as Roberts put it, as political actors? It might have something to do with far-right justices issuing regressive and reactionary rulings. And far-right justices getting caught up in indefensible ethics controversies. And far-right justices elevating the presidency above the law.
But I suspect one of the main reasons so many people see justices as political actors is the frequency with which they act like political actors. Right around the same time that the public was learning about Roberts remarks, Justice Neil Gorsuch, who has a track record of chatting with conservative media personalities, appeared on a conservative podcast, talking about his belief that young conservatives must have courage to stand by their beliefs.....
Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut argued five years ago, Judges turning into political actors, giving speeches attacking journalists, is terrible for the court and terrible for democracy. Justices proceeded to ignore the warning.
The tarnishing of the Supreme Court its credibility, its integrity and its reputation has unfolded episodically over the course of several years. If Roberts and his brethren want to whine about public reactions to their work, thats their right, but if they want to help restore the institutions standing, they have an enormous amount of work to do. To date, they have shown no willingness whatsoever to even acknowledge the causes of the Supreme Courts problems, much less take steps to address what ails it.
I think, at a very basic level, people think were making policy decisions, were saying we think this is how things should be, as opposed to what the law provides, he said. I think they view us as purely political actors, which I dont think is an accurate understanding of what we do.
His remarks to a conference of judges and lawyers from the 3rd U.S. Circuit in Pennsylvania came at a time of low public confidence in the court, and about a week after the court handed down a decision that hollowed out the Voting Rights Act.
As part of the same remarks, Roberts went on to argue that sitting justices are not part of the political process and Im not sure people grasp that as much as is appropriate......
Why does the public see the justices, as Roberts put it, as political actors? It might have something to do with far-right justices issuing regressive and reactionary rulings. And far-right justices getting caught up in indefensible ethics controversies. And far-right justices elevating the presidency above the law.
But I suspect one of the main reasons so many people see justices as political actors is the frequency with which they act like political actors. Right around the same time that the public was learning about Roberts remarks, Justice Neil Gorsuch, who has a track record of chatting with conservative media personalities, appeared on a conservative podcast, talking about his belief that young conservatives must have courage to stand by their beliefs.....
Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut argued five years ago, Judges turning into political actors, giving speeches attacking journalists, is terrible for the court and terrible for democracy. Justices proceeded to ignore the warning.
The tarnishing of the Supreme Court its credibility, its integrity and its reputation has unfolded episodically over the course of several years. If Roberts and his brethren want to whine about public reactions to their work, thats their right, but if they want to help restore the institutions standing, they have an enormous amount of work to do. To date, they have shown no willingness whatsoever to even acknowledge the causes of the Supreme Courts problems, much less take steps to address what ails it.
Roberts is a racist asshole who has been plotting to overturn or gut the Voting Rights Act since Roberts' days in the Reagan DOJ. I still remember reading the Shelby County opinion and dissent where Roberts gutted Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. That was NOT a legal opinion but a policy decision based on Roberts' belief that there was no longer racial prejudice. Alito's opinion is merely a continuation of the racist policies of the six asshole SCOTUS justices.
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Besides which we need a Democratic president to make decent SC nominations---
Jack Valentino
Friday
#90
I'm pretty sure the assumption is Democrats would get rid of the filibuster in order to pass this.
Wiz Imp
Friday
#55
Yeah.. It is an uphill battle, though the SCOTUS review that included Lawrence Tribe, did recommend
hlthe2b
Apr 30
#10
Well, of course, there were people screaming for court expansion long before the commission was formed
Fiendish Thingy
Friday
#53
What if the Republicans agreed with that logic and increased it to 13 themselves?
MichMan
Sunday
#92
Dems must not govern from fear of what republicans might do once back in power
Fiendish Thingy
Apr 30
#18
That hasn't been working out for the last 30 years... and we've been winning elections.
In It to Win It
Friday
#74
We so need young blood in both houses of congress with fresh new provocative and
magicarpet
Friday
#70
Making all US territories states would significantly exacerbate an already horrible imbalance of representation
Wiz Imp
Friday
#58
Huh? Adding states with population under 50,000 gives California more power? Seriously?
Wiz Imp
Friday
#78
My search showed the representative of Puerto Rico was Jenniffer Gonzalez Colon who became Governor of Puerto Rico last
Wiz Imp
Friday
#81
So your solution to California being drowned out by smaller , less diverse states
Wiz Imp
Friday
#84
And you are perfectly fine with voters in American Samoa and Northern Mariana Islands having 800 times the voting power
Wiz Imp
Friday
#86
Term limits is the better idea IMO. expansion becomes a runaway game where the Pubs just add more later
Amishman
Friday
#56
Nothing happens until AIPAC's influence within the Democratic Party is reduced and minimized
Ponietz
Friday
#68
There is no chance in hell we are getting term limits on Supreme Court Justices in a
standingtall
Friday
#87
MaddowBlog-Why John Roberts' defense of the Supreme Court was so wildly unpersuasive
LetMyPeopleVote
7 hrs ago
#97