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49. Automobile culture is still destroying the natural world as we knew it...

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:00 PM

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... not to mention all the people who have been killed and maimed by this technology.

Do you think all the ways computers have been used to violate our human rights is a good thing? Electronic Imitation Intelligence will only make things worse. (There is no such thing as Artificial Intelligence.)

People used to celebrate the toxin spewing smokestacks of coal powered factories as a visible sign of "progress" even after smoggy days were killing people, everything in cites was covered with grimy soot, and acid rain was dissolving monuments.

These huge power hungry electronic array processors can be applied in ways that actually do make the world a better place -- for science, medicine, and engineering for example -- but they are for the most part producing toxic crap damaging to the natural environment and our own human spirit.

Many uses of this technology are fundamentally unethical and ought not be celebrated as "progress."

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