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Jedi Guy

(3,528 posts)
26. 0%.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 11:16 PM
Jun 21

Believing that he stole the election and clinging to the kooky nonsense that gets presented as "proof" means that one must necessarily also believe that the entire Democratic Party, from Joe Biden on down, was too timid, too stupid, or too complicit to say a word. One must necessarily believe that Kamala Harris herself, after repeatedly and correctly warning that Trump is an existential threat to American democracy, meekly stepped aside even though the election was so obviously, blatantly stolen.

I've pointed this out numerous times to challenge people who make the assertion that Trump clearly stole the 2024 election and not one of them has ever responded, to the best of my recollection.

I get that watching the 2024 election play out was traumatic and that every hour of Trump's second term has been torture but desperately clinging to kooky nonsense that's been repeatedly disproven is not helpful. In fact, it's actively harmful to our chances in 2026 and beyond because if the election was stolen, we didn't do anything wrong and therefore we don't need to take a long, hard look at how we did things and learn from our mistakes. There are lessons to be learned from every electoral loss and refusing to even believe we lost makes it damned hard to learn said lessons.

But copium is sadly an extremely addictive substance, so here we are.

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Can we use Traildogbob Jun 21 #1
I personally don't think he did, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 21 #2
He always accuses other people of doing things he did, pwb Jun 21 #3
I don't know if he actually changed votes, but he broke a lot of laws around campaigns Walleye Jun 21 #4
If they weren't so greedy bob4460 Jun 21 #5
Simple logic comes into it. yellow dahlia Jun 21 #16
I doubt he stole it. bucolic_frolic Jun 21 #6
0% EdmondDantes_ Jun 21 #7
I think you are more correct at Prairie_Seagull Jun 21 #8
Musk did it. orthoclad Jun 21 #9
They both admitted it. yellow dahlia Jun 21 #17
Money talks. With lots of zeroes. orthoclad Jun 21 #19
Indeed. yellow dahlia Jun 21 #24
100% ananda Jun 21 #10
It was like Zuckerthing in 2016 orthoclad Jun 21 #22
Republicans fought recounts in 2016... Chemical Bill Jun 21 #27
Lol Polybius Monday #37
He only needed to manipulate enough of the swing states, just 4-5 of 50 states Blue Owl Jun 21 #11
Plus Musk stopped investigations into his businesses. Chemical Bill Jun 21 #28
ZERO Fiendish Thingy Jun 21 #12
100% OLDMDDEM Jun 21 #13
I'll say 0% sarisataka Jun 21 #14
90% for trying to steal it malaise Jun 21 #15
My immediate answer is 100%. But if I were filling out a form, I would say 99.99%. yellow dahlia Jun 21 #18
50/50 MustLoveBeagles Jun 21 #20
Zero. mr715 Jun 21 #21
0% onenote Jun 21 #23
I'm convinced he stole the election canetoad Jun 21 #25
0%. Jedi Guy Jun 21 #26
A few years back The Bopper Jun 21 #29
A better question might be, "What percentage of the election was stolen?" Intractable Monday #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Monday #31
Zero per cent. There has been no proof at all, just a bunch of CT-pushers like This Will Hold and others, who, in the Celerity Monday #32
100% Chemical Bill Monday #33
Maybe a 0.01 to 1 percent chance fujiyamasan Monday #34
0% Kaleva Monday #35
Same chance as if the 2020 election was stolen Polybius Monday #36
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