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52. I'll happily vote for either in a given election

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Thu Jun 25, 2026, 02:30 PM

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should they be the best choice. Easy-peasey, lemon-squeezey. No fear, no uncertainty, no doubt.

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Democratic Socialists or main stream Dems. We've been electing "main streamers" for over 50 years and for [View all] 3Hotdogs Thursday OP

Repubics know how to energize their base The Wizard Thursday #1

No political party is perfect................... Lovie777 Thursday #2

Some Democrats are definately not comfortable with Progressive Democrats ihaveaquestion Thursday #4

What do you mean by "Slapped Around"? It seems the party moved left. 33taw Thursday #22

no, it means the voters moved the party left. ret5hd Thursday #29

Isn't that what always happens? 33taw Thursday #33

well, maybe...just maybe... ret5hd Thursday #34

Agree. 33taw Thursday #48

Centrist Democrat incumbents got beat. The voters have always leaned left of center. ihaveaquestion Thursday #30

The Democratic party is still in the middle of the road, Democratic voters have passed them up . Autumn Thursday #58

I am supporting a Progressive House candidate in my Congressional district. wnylib Thursday #67

I'm with you, Ihaveaquestion. Another Liberal Democrat here who is ready BComplex Thursday #70

I agree. Sure we got the ACA but then...middle of the road types including Demsrule86 Thursday #74

I WAS that guy ("be realistic; think pragmatically"), and I'm still that guy when it comes to the General and voting for Grown2Hate Thursday #82

Yesterday was incredibly stupid creeksneakers2 Yesterday #92

Calling progressives "looney" sure doesn't help us unite luv2fly Yesterday #93

Interesting because SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #100

Talking nice to them doesn't work creeksneakers2 19 hrs ago #119

Getting called on an insult and then doubling down isn't a good look luv2fly 15 hrs ago #133

No, they won't. It's a "Boy Cried Wolf" scenario defined TVguyCards Yesterday #104

To the best of my knowledge, Obama never self-identified as a Communist... QueerDuck Yesterday #108

Correct TVguyCards 23 hrs ago #111

Their insults and accusations had no teeth, and no plausibility. The absurdity allowed them to be easily dismissed... QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #112

I'll have to disagree TVguyCards 17 hrs ago #130

LOL! Well, I love the enthusiasm, but... QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #132

I'm serious, Google it TVguyCards 2 hrs ago #135

Thanks for sharing the link! It's an interesting read... QueerDuck 1 hr ago #137

Berne is popular in VT creeksneakers2 8 hrs ago #134

He's literally the most popular TVguyCards 2 hrs ago #136

Narrowing it to "active politicians" definitely helps his numbers... QueerDuck 1 hr ago #138

Now that there are actual socialists they'll have evidence. creeksneakers2 18 hrs ago #125

Mainstream Dems talk... OhioBack2Blue Thursday #3

100% Blue Full Moon Yesterday #102

Yeah, the ACA sucked huh? nt LexVegas Thursday #5

It would have been much better with single payer, medicare for all sboatcar Thursday #31

Insurance companies L-O-V-E-D it! AStern Thursday #46

Why was a public option left out when democrats passed it? Emile Thursday #69

It passed the House, couldn't pass in Senate because needed 60 votes and couldn't get them. betsuni Thursday #86

Excellent post of the facts, betsuni. sheshe2 Yesterday #88

Republican playbook: 100% obstruction, Democrats without huge majorities like FDR, convince idiots to blame Dems. betsuni Yesterday #98

So the public option was excluded from the Affordable Care Act (ACA) because Democrats lacked Emile Yesterday #97

Everyone forgets our own Dem Sen. Max Baucus nixed it right out of the box... ms liberty Yesterday #105

Excellent post of facts! Emile Yesterday #106

Max Baucus hatrack Yesterday #107

It kinda did Polybius Yesterday #99

Your statement is incorrect. Have you forgotten the ADA, ACA, the Family and sinkingfeeling Thursday #6

BUt how much did we really gain? if Mango and crew can dismantle JT45242 Thursday #16

The first thing we need to do is get rid of the Senister Six on the Court. BComplex Thursday #71

When Dems control both houses of Congress and the presidency, they have accomplished quite a bit Martin Eden Thursday #7

Our system needs major revamping. returnee Thursday #8

Because most Dems do not trust DSA types and a lot of DSA's are unrealistic about how politics works. LymphocyteLover Thursday #10

We laughed at Maggots and called them unrealistic in '16. 3Hotdogs Thursday #12

Is that supposed to give me confidence about electing DSA types? LymphocyteLover Thursday #19

Billionaires have a lot of power. yardwork Thursday #28

and yet the dem socialists seem to be winning actual elections moonshinegnomie Thursday #17

in NYC LymphocyteLover Thursday #20

A Muslim Socialist won in a city that has the biggest Jewish population in the world TVguyCards Thursday #61

Dem Socialists/progressives have run in recent years and not done that great in rural areas but I've nothing against the LymphocyteLover Thursday #65

I honestly don't recall any who have TVguyCards Thursday #66

In very liberal NYC mcar Thursday #42

"DSA types" ? Jilly_in_VA Thursday #26

"DSA types" equals New Deal Democrats AStern Thursday #59

LymphocyteLover Makes some Good Points. nt. Cha Thursday #63

By DSA-type I am referring to DSA people but also certain leftists and progressive Dems that may not be officially with LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #120

It's exactly the non-"DSA types"... returnee Thursday #54

I don't have any huge problem with DSA policy-wise, as long as they vote for Dems in the general election, LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #121

Why do you think that is? TVguyCards Thursday #60

See these policies LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #122

"DSA types" as you call them are just following what they do in European BComplex Thursday #73

and I'm not against that at all! Still they are not Democrats and they do create division in the Dem party. LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #123

Are you not following what's happening? TransitJohn 23 hrs ago #114

I agree most Democrats like a lot of the progressive social policies that DSA promotes. I do too. LymphocyteLover 18 hrs ago #124

this is BS, though I don't know exactly what you mean by "mainstreamers" LymphocyteLover Thursday #9

Centrists, establishment, moderate, status quo, neoliberal, mainstreamer. Means capitalism. Capitalism bad. betsuni Thursday #81

The reich-wing mass media machine has demonized anything for the public good as "socialism." Mysterian Thursday #11

I caught a few minutes of The Five on Fox last night just to see the reaction to NY. For these people "socialism" OGBuzz Thursday #15

The Democratic Party in disarray! crud Thursday #13

Fight referee? DFW Thursday #40

I am convinced that profit has been the... S/V Loner Thursday #14

Reminder: data shows that most voters who identify as "moderates" actually prefer progressive policies Fiendish Thingy Thursday #18

Socialists elected maliaSmith Thursday #21

So did I DFW Thursday #41

You are suggesting that Boo1 Thursday #23

Somehow you missed the ACA Progressive dog Thursday #24

You're skipping over a lot. SamuelAdams Thursday #25

I'm all in - traditional Democrat or Progressive Democrat - I'll be supporting them. n/t iluvtennis Thursday #27

That's the key. yardwork Thursday #32

Well said @yardwork. n/t iluvtennis Thursday #36

Thanks. yardwork Thursday #38

To Be Effective, Democrats Need to Be the Majority MineralMan Thursday #35

This basic fact is known by billionaires. yardwork Thursday #37

Well, that strategy appears to be working. MineralMan Thursday #39

Who are you electing in your House District? Quiet Em Thursday #43

Like Bartelby, "I would prefer not to." DFW Thursday #44

Can't we celebrate good things happening 1WorldHope Thursday #45

The Democratic Socialists actually have a higher approval rating than Congressional Democrats AZProgressive Thursday #47

We played this game on DU in 2016 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Thursday #49

I logged off of DU at the beginning of that primary season AZProgressive Thursday #51

"Mainstream" democrats have made it so that I can afford health insurance (ACA). LudwigPastorius Thursday #50

Are you self employed, poor or a brown person? 1WorldHope Thursday #55

Indeed, I am self employed. LudwigPastorius Thursday #57

I was also self employed most of my working career. 1WorldHope Thursday #62

Uh the OP is point blank saying Democrats haven't accomplished anything since Medicare. BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #116

I'll happily vote for either in a given election Torchlight Thursday #52

OK. No one can accomplish anything unless LeftInTX Thursday #53

All of us are democratic socialists to one degree or another (small d, small s), but MSM and pundits are wiggs Thursday #56

From Google AI EnergizedLib Thursday #64

Democratic Socialism vs Social Democracy thought crime Thursday #80

Main streamers. LizVerite Thursday #68

Manchin & Sinema are gone (thank God), but Fetterman is still there, voting with the GOP whenever he can. red dog 1 Thursday #72

Lets elect, smart, honest, and committed people. Period. Joinfortmill Thursday #75

I'm just not keen on people who call Joe Biden a "rapist". RandySF Thursday #76

Socialist Schmocalist. Centrist Schmentrist. FIGHT OLIGARCHY. usonian Thursday #77

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So true, and makes one wonder just what some expect to accomplish by divisive posts like this OP blaming all the lostincalifornia Thursday #85

Still see idea that people are forced to vote for Republicans/3rd party because Democrats aren't progressive enough. betsuni Yesterday #109

I think you analysis is on the mark. lostincalifornia 22 hrs ago #117

Democratic Socialists or main stream Dems. We've been electing "main streamers" for over 50 years and for warmfeet Thursday #79

Some might argue that the DSA gave us bush in 2000 thanks to Nader, trump in 2016 with the help of lostincalifornia Thursday #83

Some might argue that the democratic socialists kept getting yelled at to join the Democratic Party, and so they did. Iggo Yesterday #89

Nina Turner, Sirota, Cornell West, Prof. Eddie George oasis Yesterday #90

This is breaking into the open FINALLY Bluetus Thursday #84

Both! Iggo Thursday #87

More progressive lies creeksneakers2 Yesterday #91

Those in our ranks who worked to derail our nominees in 2000 and 2016 DFW Yesterday #95

Same fact-free myth that the Democratic Party has shifted to the right over the decades. Zero evidence. betsuni Yesterday #94

Many good points herein. And while B.See Yesterday #96

Why are we doing this? RandySF Yesterday #101

While I personally am more aligned with DSA JBTaurus83 Yesterday #103

I think it doesn't have to be one way or the other - why not have a diverse set of ideas? walkingman Yesterday #110

Actually, We Have Failed to Do That in Two Recent, Crucial Elections. MineralMan 23 hrs ago #113

I'm for running candidates that fit their communities. BannonsLiver 22 hrs ago #115

ACA. But More To The Point: If You Think ANYONE, EVEN JESUS HIMSELF, Could Get Elected With..... ColoringFool 21 hrs ago #118

Way past time to tack left. marble falls 18 hrs ago #126

So the ACA has no benefit the average commoner? krawhitham 18 hrs ago #127

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 krawhitham 18 hrs ago #128

Since 1977 Dems have created 43,551,000 more jobs than GQP krawhitham 18 hrs ago #129

Not this again.... Etherealoc1 17 hrs ago #131