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In reply to the discussion: Bill Maher makes startling admission to JD Vance about the future of his Democratic support [View all]Cirsium
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Obviously. "Yeah, but what about...?"
What does "not every crime is a result of a cyclical societal root cause" mean? Of course everything that happens in a social context is part of the social context. She said "we have to think not only about interrupting that cycle of harm but also preventing it from the onset." She then asks "what are the systems that actually reduce that harm from happening in the first place?" The systems we currently use to supposedly "reduce that harm from happening" - aggressive policing of minority communities and bodies, gated communities for the wealthy, fear-mongering by the media and by politicians, cruel and unusual punishment, protecting property over people - are failing to reduce harm, and that is harm to all of us.
Reducing that important discussion to "yeah but what about a murderer" is disingenuous at best.
The interviewer asked "do you not incarcerate the murderer?" She answered "I dont think anyone in society questions that thats whats going to happen." In other words, it is a bogus question.
She also said she is talking about "the distance between the world we want to see and the world that were at." Can we not do that?