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cab67

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25. It's not necessarily a matter of politics.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 03:48 PM
Yesterday

Or if it is, it doesn't necessarily have to do with the president.

Many universities are being approached by tech companies to use their AI services as an adjunct to other modes of education. These can be expensive, so universities are offered discounted "educational" rates, and administrators are being told it's the way of the future. There is thus a disconnect between some (not all) in the administration and most (though sadly not all) faculty when it comes to this sort of thing. Faculty are being encouraged to use AI, or to let students use it, in spite of the clear evidence that (a) AI is unreliable and (b) even when it's reliable, it's harmful to the educational process.

A survey was sent to us a couple of weeks ago asking how we integrate AI in our classes. My answer was very brief - I forbid its use.

The same thing happened when instructional technology first became a thing in the 1990's. I was happy to use PowerPoint for pictures because it meant I wouldn't have to sort through slides and put them away, but otherwise, I saw little use in some of the multimedia packages we were encouraged to use. All I could see was that students stopped taking notes the minute some sort of digital resource was made available. DIdn't have to be online, either - it could have been a CD-ROM that came with a textbook.

I haven't really been hit with pressure to use AI at my own institution, but I have colleagues elsewhere who have. It's about money, yes, but not necessarily about national politics.

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Most enlightening information, thank you for bringing it here for us Attilatheblond Yesterday #1
Who needs higher education when you can fake your way through life. nt ImNotGod Yesterday #2
As expressed by a member of... 2naSalit Yesterday #9
To someone.... SergeStorms Yesterday #23
There is a reason med schools don't allow take-home exams dalton99a Yesterday #3
I want to know which AI tool they were using RandomNumbers Yesterday #4
Those AI models you mentioned were all illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. I'm sorry highplainsdem Yesterday #10
Not necessarily in the case of how I use it for work. RandomNumbers Yesterday #13
Cory Doctorow teaches us what AI can and cannot use, and why most of what AI uses is not stealing intellectual property. ancianita Yesterday #31
I like Cory and often agree with him, and he'd sometimes repost my comments when I was still highplainsdem Yesterday #34
And btw, Cory isn't in agreement with most creators of intellectual property on copyright: highplainsdem Yesterday #35
probably cuz it's a narrow subject. mopinko Yesterday #12
Narrow subjects aren't necessarily immune to the problem. cab67 Yesterday #22
Clever prof! nt LAS14 Yesterday #5
universities will take the money, thus prostituting their values by bending over for trump msongs Yesterday #6
It's not necessarily a matter of politics. cab67 Yesterday #25
And yet, certain DUers think this is just fine and we're yelling at clouds. Coventina Yesterday #7
Certain DUers think using AI to cheat on exams if "just fine". Disaffected Yesterday #15
thread from a few days ago Coventina Yesterday #16
OK, I skimmed that thread and didn't see any posts Disaffected Yesterday #18
I'm not going to call out specific people, as that is against DU TOS. Coventina Yesterday #19
Sorry but I cannot draw inferences that are not there. Disaffected Yesterday #20
Are you seriously making a case that coming into a thread about AI threats to Coventina Yesterday #28
That's some serious goalpost moving there. Disaffected Yesterday #29
This is sad and worrying. yardwork Yesterday #8
it's a brilliant solution imho. mopinko Yesterday #11
Yes Kaleva Yesterday #14
I remember the dreaded individual oral exams administered by no-nonsense Jesuits at the end of each semester, sop Yesterday #33
But they can't write cursive! Mossfern Yesterday #38
Take home, closed book exams?? Disaffected Yesterday #17
It's right on my syllabus. cab67 Yesterday #21
This gets a bit murky but, Disaffected Yesterday #27
wary. cab67 Yesterday #30
Interesting and well put. Disaffected Yesterday #36
If only.... SergeStorms Yesterday #24
Just based on my reading history, El Pais is another fantastic non-US M$M outlet erronis Yesterday #26
The only way to deal with this Matthew28 Yesterday #32
I find it fascinating... kentuck Yesterday #37
Older but wiser Mossfern Yesterday #39
I think that the younger generations anciano Yesterday #40
This is a problem. cab67 22 hrs ago #41
See reply 42. highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #43
I guess you've missed the news stories about polls showing younger users have a lower opinion of AI highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #42
I think the appropriate and responsible use of AI anciano 21 hrs ago #44
Generative AI tools are unethical because they're illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem 21 hrs ago #45
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