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neohippie

(1,199 posts)
10. So let's revisit some history here
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 07:44 AM
Yesterday

In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer their nuclear weapons to Russia for dismantlement and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for economic compensation and assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the ...

Later Russia invades Ukraine and claims Crimea as theirs

The US does little other than complain and sanction Russia Putin feels emboldened and threatens the Ukraine's sovereignty when they feel like joining NATO and are encouraged by George Bush and others to do that.

Putin invades Ukraine, the US once again falls short in their promises to defend their sovereignty instead they pile on more sanctions and provide some material support but fears Russian threats of use of nuclear weapons and a larger war with NATO

Now four years into that Russian invasion while Russia holds huge amounts of Ukrainian territory The US now demands that Ukraine give them half or more of their mineral wealth that is of far greater value to the war torn country than the total amount of aid provided or they will stop supporting their defense.

We are looking like the Imperial forces in a dystopian science fiction story as our leaders have fully embraced the dark side

Trump and his US State Department tell the Ukraine that its a smart play to accept his offer for their mineral wealth or threatens to withdraw US support from their efforts to stop the Russian aggression weakening their position in any efforts to make a peace deal with Russia and accept that they are going to have to surrender all the lands that the foreign invader has captured and loose half the of their country's mineral wealth in order to have peace and security

If you were Ukraine you realize that the promises of security from your last deal with Russia and the United States was less than the beads that the Indians were given for Manhattan Island in New York

Why should the Ukraine once again trust the two countries who already gave them false promises of security in the past with this new Devil's bargain. Would you surrender half you land, half your mineral wealth for another promise

The US is now looking like a mobster state like Russia under Putin with Trump in charge. In just three weeks Trump has undone decades of work that helped create US hegemony by threatening our neighbors, our allies, corrupting and dismantling our federal institutions, insulted Europe shown that he has no respect for our courts, the rule of law, trampled on the Constitution, the separation of powers, is using coercion, extortion, bribery and whitewashing, outright erasing and rewriting history

Meanwhile our courts, our Congress, our independent federal agencies that are supposed to be guardrails against these kinds of attacks are not working. Our neighbors are threatened with invasions (Mexico) and we are harassing Panama and Greenland (another country with huge amounts of mineral wealth)

And Trump and Lil Marco Rubio are cozying up to Putin offering them everything that they desire in a peace deal that sells out the Ukraine, and our NATO allies are agast, former top US Generals are saying this looks like the end of our more than 70 year old alliance that has strengthened Europe

This is not America

I'd ask what dim donnie thinks he's going to do if Zelenskyy doesn't bend the knee Grokenstein Yesterday #1
He'd just say: "Nice little country you have there. It'll be a shame if something happens to it." brush Yesterday #28
Attempted extortion of Zelensky was what his first impeachment was about. LastLiberal in PalmSprings 14 hrs ago #59
Sell the mineral rights to Denmark/Greenland. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #2
Really hope Zelenskyy tells him to fuck himself and doesn't yield to this blatant fascist extortion. Karasu Yesterday #3
How can US be trusted on any "deal" with deadbeat Donnie in charge wishstar Yesterday #4
This is not a deal SurfLiberal Yesterday #7
It's imperialism Prairie Gates Yesterday #13
Or this... SurfLiberal Yesterday #22
Another source for Justice Sco-lito to cite wolfie001 20 hrs ago #45
There is an implied threat Diraven Yesterday #24
This is a shakedown HarryM 18 hrs ago #53
Four more years of this sh#t. C0RI0LANUS Yesterday #5
I'll have to look for the new Perkins book Bayard 22 hrs ago #39
Hi Bayard. I haven't read it, but the sequel came out in 2016, so probably not. But here's what Mr. Perkins C0RI0LANUS 20 hrs ago #46
Excellent Link, Coriolanus! ReRe 17 hrs ago #54
Thanks, ReRe. C0RI0LANUS 16 hrs ago #57
Hi Bayard and ReRe. Just an FYI. C0RI0LANUS 7 hrs ago #61
No deals with the U.S.A while the Felon is in charge. Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #6
Which balls? NT SADAR Yesterday #8
Either works for me. Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #11
The guy's really got the art of the deal down, doesn't he? NT mahatmakanejeeves Yesterday #9
So let's revisit some history here neohippie Yesterday #10
Precisely. "I'll get ya peace, but first you gotta..." Kid Berwyn Yesterday #14
I thought Drill Baby Drill would give us all the oil and gas we'd ever need? Prairie Gates Yesterday #12
I would agree to it and then balk at it when it was convenient. Ray Bruns Yesterday #15
It's breathtaking to see grown adults acting irrationally like this. travelingthrulife Yesterday #16
I truly suspect that Trump is being forced to do this because of Putin. Baitball Blogger Yesterday #19
Epstein's Island LuvLoogie Yesterday #29
No. ReRe 17 hrs ago #55
I'm looking. Saw that there was a fire there LuvLoogie 11 hrs ago #60
They are making us sound like gangsters. Baitball Blogger Yesterday #17
The US is being run by gangsters. The US is now a crime syndicate. Irish_Dem Yesterday #26
Don Corleone would call it "protection money". JohnnyRingo Yesterday #18
Zelensky should take out a few of our traitors 4catsmom Yesterday #20
Stay strong President zelensky...I'm sure he knows tsf will not live up to any agreement PortTack Yesterday #21
EXTORTION IS NOT NEGOTIATION MLWR Yesterday #23
NO! Linda ladeewolf Yesterday #25
Mobsters demanding protection money IronLionZion Yesterday #27
So it's okay if Donnie calls world leaders names? Owens Yesterday #30
Waltz to speak at CPAC struggle4progress Yesterday #31
"I'll make him an offer he can't refuse...". /nt artemisia1 Yesterday #32
Fox News Confronts Trump Adviser struggle4progress Yesterday #33
FUCK YOU, YOU TRAITOROUS BASTARD. quit wasting oxygen, mikey. niyad 23 hrs ago #34
Extortion from the lying mob boss who promised to Justice matters. 23 hrs ago #35
FU Waltz. It's extortion. 58Sunliner 23 hrs ago #36
Hang in there Ukraine Progressive dog 22 hrs ago #37
What an "opportunity." July 22 hrs ago #38
I keep saying, Bayard 22 hrs ago #40
God. I hope you are wrong! n/t ReRe 16 hrs ago #56
Fuck trump. Go KFC! Take this shithead out already! Lucky Luciano 21 hrs ago #41
Trump has repeatedly said he only wants to stop the killing. But apparently GoodRaisin 21 hrs ago #42
I Thought The Europeans Said OhioTim 21 hrs ago #43
Sending German troops into Ukraine would really rankle the Russians. Sneederbunk 21 hrs ago #44
Awwww Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 20 hrs ago #47
Remember Canada! kevinore 20 hrs ago #48
Mike Walz has no right to expect any sovereign leader -- whom Walz's boss officially abandoned to an aggressor -- ancianita 20 hrs ago #49
Our government is now full of fascists assholes mdbl 19 hrs ago #50
it's insane deal, fuck Waltz and fuck trump LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #51
So embarrassed by my own country. OverBurn 19 hrs ago #52
Worse than extortion. BidenRocks 14 hrs ago #58
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