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DENVERPOPS

(10,892 posts)
72. Exactly
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 07:01 PM
21 hrs ago

They have wanted to install a VAT tax for a long time, which IS WAY BEYOND REGRESSIVE by a huge amount.
The rich will pay an insignificant part of their income on purchases, and we all will pay the VAT tax on a big percent of our incomes.

Other countries have it and it works, but they ALL have free health care, free or ultra cheap meds, free college education etc, in return.

We won't get anything, but a barely liveable wage, and "barely existing" subsistence..............

The car market is already on the skids because no one can afford a new car, kids can't buy houses and can barely afford the outrageous rents, utility bills have soared out of sight, groceries have suffered from a 20-30% increase over the past 2-3 years for smaller quantities, gas prices are still high, vegetable prices have soared, etc etc etc etc.
And if you go to a fast food outlet, the size of everything has shrunk by a third, and it is three times as expensive as the original sized items....

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We tried tariffs before Henry203 Thursday #1
The idiots never learn. I think I'll wait before filing taxes this year... brush Yesterday #53
That will be wildly inflationary too Jerry2144 Thursday #2
How about if we scrap Trump and abolish Musk instead? Wicked Blue Thursday #3
essentially a national sales tax lapfog_1 Thursday #4
Right now bananas are 55 cents a pound retail. A 25% tariff, even on the entire retail cost as opposed to the landed kelly1mm Thursday #12
25%... across the board lapfog_1 Thursday #17
It's the cumulative effect of adding 25% onto everything VMA131Marine Thursday #18
But how much of the typical American's budget is on imported goods? Of the big 4 housing, taxes, food kelly1mm Thursday #20
You are forgetting raw materials and knock on effects Miguelito Loveless Thursday #25
Exactly DENVERPOPS 21 hrs ago #72
Nope... I'm sorry. You're dealing with the immediacy of the issue; slightlv Thursday #30
A lot of stuff on Amazon/Ebay and even Etsy comes from China tulipsandroses Yesterday #52
In 2019, 19 percent of consumer spending on goods in the United States came from imports. Wiz Imp Yesterday #70
25% tariff + 23% VAT Miguelito Loveless Thursday #24
Still not cutting out bananas or coffee ....... nt kelly1mm Thursday #35
It's nice you have the luxury Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #71
A 25% tariff across the board wouldn't come remotely close to raising the revenue needed Wiz Imp Yesterday #67
Outsiders don't pay. We pay! /nt bucolic_frolic Thursday #5
Right. "Tariffs collected from other countries"? Tariffs are paid by importers, not by other countries. n/t thesquanderer Thursday #10
Somebody, for the love of the Goddess, please educate these idiots Bayard Thursday #15
You markodochartaigh Thursday #48
Eventually that concept is going to get through to all the people slightlv Thursday #31
even if they collect the tariffs rampartd Thursday #6
Exactly - but American retailers will game the system to their advantage FakeNoose Thursday #45
Well that will quickly crash the economy.............. Lovie777 Thursday #7
Within a week Miguelito Loveless Thursday #26
And trump, millionaires and billionaires, both foreign and domestic slightlv Thursday #33
Wait... our new commerce secretary ALSO thinks foreign countries pay tariffs? William Seger Thursday #8
Lutnik knows that we not he will be paying the taxes delisen Thursday #13
Prices will rise beyond what we pay in taxes now neohippie Thursday #9
In a month he has done more to America than any other President. twodogsbarking Thursday #11
So not happy with failure to dweller Thursday #14
Exactly and his ignorant MAGATs don't know livetohike Thursday #23
Why Wharton School of Business let TSF graduate, I'll never know. no_hypocrisy Thursday #16
He has a bachelor's degree not an MBA. milestogo Thursday #37
He probably had someone sit in and take the tests for him. Xolodno Thursday #39
What a dangerous, fucking idiot. Native Thursday #19
One more time ...Foreign countries do NOT PAY tariffs! ashredux Thursday #21
Executive Orders really are something! Kid Berwyn Thursday #22
His idiocy is boundless. WestMichRad Thursday #27
He's an idiot surfered Thursday #28
LOL!!!! n/t valleyrogue Thursday #29
JFC. 58Sunliner Thursday #32
Hell yea, let's go with 150% tariffs on everything coming in. The CEOs will love the income.. LiberalArkie Thursday #34
"Other countries" don't pay these tariffs. appmanga Thursday #36
So basically Trump wants to build our economy and have Mexico pay for it... Ohioboy Thursday #38
He's using the word "Tariff" and misconstruing it. Xolodno Thursday #40
Reliance on foreign trade to fund our government would make us extremely vulnerable to bad actors. bluedigger Thursday #41
When this fails Nasruddin Thursday #43
It just keeps getting worse! sakabatou Thursday #42
He is fixated on the term "tariff". He went on about how much he loves the word. He's an infant in a suit. BSC. nt Evolve Dammit Thursday #44
no taxes no social security nt et tu Thursday #46
What an idiot. The income tax is in the US Constitution. valleyrogue Thursday #47
I for one say this is a brilliant strategy... Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #49
I didn't think tariffs went to the government. iemanja Yesterday #50
They are paid to US Customs (Treasury Dept) by company importing the goods wishstar Yesterday #64
I know Howard. He isn't a dummy. erodriguez Yesterday #51
But for how long? DFW Yesterday #66
So we won't have pay for all the stuff they're taking away? JohnnyRingo Yesterday #54
Someone Else? Roy Rolling Yesterday #55
Trying to wrap my head around this alleged plan. Trust_Reality Yesterday #56
Amendment 16 rpannier Yesterday #57
This would incentivize the gov to increase imports Kablooie Yesterday #58
The total value of all the goods we import ... Straw Man Yesterday #59
Exactly. Wiz Imp Yesterday #68
That Is Extremely Regressive DallasNE Yesterday #60
Do they really think that tariffs will Figarosmom Yesterday #61
So... Mexico REALLY IS going to pay for it... Layzeebeaver Yesterday #62
HE. IS. INSANE. IMPEACH HIM NOW. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #63
You would think that Lutnick and Trump know that the ISA is part of Treasury, not Commerce DFW Yesterday #65
Exactly. My first thought is why is Lutnick babbling about this? Wiz Imp Yesterday #69
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