Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Latest Breaking News

Showing Original Post only (View all)

Polybius

(19,607 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 12:36 PM Saturday

California Governor Newsom Says the Democratic Brand Is 'Toxic' [View all]

Source: NY Times

Gov. Gavin Newsom of California said on Friday that the Democratic brand was “toxic” and that his party had to admit its own mistakes, delivering tough love as Democrats struggle in their fight against the Trump administration.

Mr. Newsom, once considered a liberal combatant, has embarked on a political soul search in the months since President Trump won the White House and Republicans won both houses of Congress. On Friday, he used his strongest language yet to criticize his own party during an appearance on “Real Time With Bill Maher.”

“The Democratic brand is toxic right now,” he said, pointing to a recent NBC News poll that showed Democrats with a 27 percent favorability rating, the lowest in at least a generation.

Mr. Newsom, a possible 2028 presidential candidate, blamed his fellow Democrats for his party’s woes. He criticized Democrats for being judgmental, staying in an echo chamber and resorting to “cancel culture” to ostracize people whose views they find abhorrent.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/29/us/politics/newsom-democrats-toxic.html

133 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Post removed Post removed Saturday #1
What the hell Traildogbob Saturday #4
Becoming a Repug at warp speed... red alert! red alert! NotHardly Saturday #58
Could he even get re-elected Governor if he was eligible?! Somehow I doubt it. InAbLuEsTaTe 8 hrs ago #133
Oh come on Polybius Saturday #9
Perhaps you haven't noticed... Think. Again. Saturday #11
Yes, I'm not disagreeing with that Polybius Saturday #12
"He's far from a Nazi." LudwigPastorius Saturday #76
I have no idea who that is Polybius Sunday #88
That's Charlie Kirk. LudwigPastorius Sunday #93
Post removed Post removed Saturday #86
I can't believe the amout of people calling Gavin a Nazi in this thread Polybius Sunday #89
collaborator? A Vichy Democrat? /nt thought crime Sunday #99
Nixon Was Fascism 1.0 -- Bush & Bush Was Fascism 2.0 MayReasonRule Saturday #29
Nixon was a criminal Polybius Saturday #45
History Demonstrates That Silence Is Complicity MayReasonRule Saturday #47
I wouldn't call them Nazis either... I'd call them fucking Nazis!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #79
Yeah sure Polybius Sunday #90
MAGA is worse Cirsium Saturday #85
Oh Gavin, Democrats want to inflict universal healthcare on population Walleye Saturday #2
He's done that and more in his career. ificandream Saturday #36
Gavin was sposed to be a "Super Pol." I liked him but he's now holdin the back of the line of potential 2028 candidates. InAbLuEsTaTe 8 hrs ago #132
What is toxic is having been married UpInArms Saturday #3
I second this. FalloutShelter Saturday #19
If you mean Guilfoyle, she was a liberal before she turned stupid. ificandream Saturday #37
Nah ... UpInArms Saturday #50
And he cheated on her madville Saturday #67
BS! Sorry not sorry Granny Blue 17 hrs ago #128
I know I'm done with him... ZERO chance he gets the 2028 nomination, at least not for the Democratic Party!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #82
Agree....that fucker is toast. He just DeSantis's himself AND much faster. Bengus81 Sunday #102
welp, so much for thinking things would be better here in CA FirstLight Saturday #5
Oh!!!!!the Gargoyle toxins got him Traildogbob Saturday #6
If you poll people subjected to propaganda BootinUp Saturday #7
Wait, wut? no_hypocrisy Saturday #8
That's not what he's saying. It's the public's attitude toward the party he's talking about. ificandream Saturday #38
That's stile over substance. no_hypocrisy Saturday #40
Bernie Sanders isn't a Dem. maxsolomon 22 hrs ago #124
Wow, has he misread the room! highplainsdem Saturday #10
That's a major understatement!! Watch for Newsom backpedal in 3... 2... 1... InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #81
Big mistake, Gav. ms liberty Saturday #13
On edit..Charlie Kirk was his second big mistake. First was raising the flags Bengus81 Sunday #103
Jeez. He can't stop shooting himself in the foot these days, can he? Scrivener7 Saturday #14
It's crazy... why throw your base under a bus?! Makes no sense!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #115
Our leaders, if they were smart, would be speaking of nothing but our strengths. Scrivener7 Yesterday #117
Why? For the 30 peices of silver, of course Granny Blue 17 hrs ago #127
Showing his true colors Blue Full Moon Saturday #15
Guilty. I don't consort with nazis. CountMyVote4Reality Saturday #16
No comment. 50 Shades Of Blue Saturday #17
Gavin Newsom's messaging is toxic Quiet Em Saturday #18
i am so disgusted by my governor kimbutgar Saturday #20
So you do a poll about Democratic Party favorability House of Roberts Saturday #21
...and the solution, of course, is to "move to the center"... regnaD kciN Saturday #30
Appeal to bigots and theocrats and it will become toxic to me. Solly Mack Saturday #22
Gavin, Gavin, Gavin. You've just cut your political throat, you aging pretty boy, you. hedda_foil Saturday #23
Agreed, the only way I'd vote for him at this point is if he pulls off a MIRACLE to become our party's nominee in 2028. InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #84
It's only toxic because of people like Newsom Nigrum Cattus Saturday #24
Bullshit. kacekwl Saturday #25
Not sure about this. I'll wait until Californians decide. bluestarone Saturday #26
Yay! More trans bashing. Oneironaut Saturday #27
I hope that I will be n the majority Lifeafter70 Saturday #83
And just like that...Poof! Zorro Saturday #28
As a Californian, I'm disappointed. Appeasement is not the way forward; resistance is the way forward. Magoo48 Saturday #31
Gavin Newsom is a "Toxic Sellout". I expect him to announce he is a Repug any day now. flashman13 Saturday #32
He might but MAGOTS won't vote for him......... Bengus81 Sunday #106
You are absolutely right that MAGAts won't vote for him. flashman13 Sunday #112
I think the press needs to stop taking his comments out of context. ificandream Saturday #33
NYT has a long history of attacking dems GoreWon2000 Saturday #72
True journalism is not a fan club. ificandream Saturday #75
NYT has long ignored actual facts GoreWon2000 Yesterday #121
Name one. ificandream Yesterday #122
W's claim that he was a "compassionate conservative" GoreWon2000 Yesterday #123
If Bush was actually quoted as saying it, the Times is likely to report it. There's nothing wrong there. ificandream 21 hrs ago #125
Gore was attacked for Granny Blue 17 hrs ago #129
I agree about Gore over Bush would have been better. ificandream 15 hrs ago #130
"Lockbox" was the big joke on SNL, for late night comics. betsuni 12 hrs ago #131
"The Democratic brand is TOXIC" is a quote from him. Not taken out of context. Bengus81 Sunday #108
He met with poo poo king just before he changed course. GreenWave Saturday #34
Yeah. Did he get Lindsay Grahamed? LuvLoogie Saturday #35
I guess he's joining Fetterman now, Butterflylady Saturday #39
He's toxic wryter2000 Saturday #41
People hate Democrats more than open fascists. BlueTsunami2018 Saturday #42
Nope, what they hate are women. efhmc Saturday #55
I believe that it is the relentless right wing hate media since the mid '80's Tumbulu Saturday #69
Harris lost by 2M votes out of 152 MILLION cast. The Dem brand is not toxic Bengus81 Sunday #111
I read a title from a post that said he found common ground with Charlie Kirk.... wolfie001 Saturday #43
Gleeful Prairie Gates Saturday #44
FIFY Ray Bruns Saturday #46
I hate to say it, but I can't argue with the general conclusion. snot Saturday #48
Democrats are only mad at the party for not fighting back Ritabert Saturday #49
Exactly GoreWon2000 Saturday #71
This. BlueKota 21 hrs ago #126
Not to me DownriverDem Saturday #51
I wonder what it costs to buy a US governor? Irish_Dem Saturday #52
I want Pete Buttigieg as the future leader of the Dems True Dough Saturday #53
Pete over Newsom is a no brainer!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #118
Glad to see that DU administrators seem to be loosening up on Newsom critiques. Paladin Saturday #54
It costs way too much to live in Calif. CountAllVotes Saturday #56
Depends how you say it Polybius Saturday #59
He is Moving to the Right PCB66 Saturday #57
I believe the coined term is "triangulation". LudwigPastorius Saturday #80
I'd like some specific examples of this "talking down to" and judgementalism that isn't equally egregious on the right SpankMe Saturday #60
Maybe we should be polling college students and high school students. This will tell you what the mood Pisces Saturday #61
The Newsome Brand is becoming toxic IbogaProject Saturday #62
No, it wasn't. Don't think like a Republican. travelingthrulife Yesterday #120
And I thought him playing patty cake with Kirk was disgusting. Phoenix61 Saturday #63
Post removed Post removed Saturday #64
Huh, what? Dems just need better MEMES and EMOJIS ! nt Exp Saturday #65
I would Rebl2 Saturday #66
What a pathetic sob he turned out to be. ananda Saturday #68
Guy who married Guilfolye says what? Wild blueberry Saturday #70
Why post something like this? It does not help Democrats at all and it just feeds the trolls that hate them. cstanleytech Saturday #73
Excuse me? Polybius Saturday #74
I'm confused, not angry. There is a difference in case you were unaware. cstanleytech Sunday #95
Both aren't good reasons to be against the posting Polybius Sunday #96
I get your concern but this needs to be discussed ificandream Saturday #77
"He criticized Democrats for...resorting to 'cancel culture' to ostracize people whose views they find abhorrent." LudwigPastorius Saturday #78
Cancel culture was just a 2020-2021 bizarre faze, and the left has abandoned it Polybius Sunday #91
I don't think Cancel Culture was ever real tbh. Oneironaut Sunday #97
All this says to me is Newsom is a selfish asshole tulipsandroses Saturday #87
Same as Bernie Sanders saying candidates should run as Independents but for different reasons. betsuni Sunday #92
I've supported Newsom .... Bread and Circuses Sunday #94
Republicans are good at finding the most unpopular policies supported by some Democrats and then painting them as key andym Sunday #98
Glad I learned way,way early that this asshat is NO Democrat. But now that the cat is Bengus81 Sunday #100
What has become toxic... AntiFascist Sunday #101
Sounds serious Torchlight Sunday #104
Life in la la land struggle4progress Sunday #105
Why do I bet he runs third party and gets the Republican installed again the next time? Vinca Sunday #107
I doubt he'd play that second fiddle role. He wants the top slot in a party that could win Bengus81 Sunday #109
I think his next move Keepthesoulalive Sunday #110
I really wonder if his next move is even related to Democratic politics cadoman Yesterday #116
I just can't with him JustAnotherGen Sunday #113
Senator Murphy wrote something similar in the Atlantic andym Sunday #114
It's like this thread aspired to prove his point Sympthsical Yesterday #119
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»California Governor Newso...