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Bernardo de La Paz

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13. Great Depression caused by over-production, not tariffs. Tariff taxes made it worse & longer
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:41 AM
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This is different. I think tRump tariff taxes will be the main cause of a coming recession or worse. Mass firings in the government sector up and down the line will make it worse. ICE-y disruptions in the labour market will make it worse. Reduced government spending will make it worse.

Swapping out income taxes and putting in tariff taxes is regressive since upper income classes spend money on untariffed things like vacations and real estate and artwork and plastic surgery. Poor people have to shop at Walmart, etc and spend more of their income on tariffed goods.

Poor and middle class people are the engine of the economy, which after all is all about money in motion. When poor people get money they put it into motion immediately to pay debts and rent and buy to replace something they've been wanting to replace for a year.

When tariff taxes are raised on imports, they cause price rises on domestic product too, because of the profit motive. Used cars are going to have a jump in prices.

Tariff taxes mean that the dollars in the economy buy fewer units. Fewer units sold means fewer sales people, few warehouse people, fewer truckers. These all have ripple effects.

Tariff tax revenue will not meet tRumpian expectations. tRump will balloon the deficit because compliant RepubliCONners will pass a big income tax cut budget (disproportionately for the rich). And then there will need to be increased government payments (like unemployment and stimulus cheques signed with great fanfare by tRump) so that tRump won't lose half his base. That will also balloon the deficit.

tRump also wants to devalue the dollar to try to decrease the money the US owes internationally. That will put further downward pressure on the stock market as investors flee to Europe and Canada, despite their tariff tax burdens imposed by tRump.

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"And for my next act, I will shoot myself in both feet" C_U_L8R Monday #1
And all of the assholes who voted for him JustAnotherGen Monday #16
We'll see how the cheer when Trump drives the economy into recession. TomSlick Monday #37
This ain't 1965 Bluetus Monday #18
That's because BumRushDaShow Monday #22
Preaching to the choir a bit here, but Bluetus Monday #33
I have been bingeing on Monty Python skits and movies. This maladministration travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #41
Mass immigration, tariffs, cost of living to high, etc..................... Lovie777 Monday #2
Great Depression caused by over-production, not tariffs. Tariff taxes made it worse & longer Bernardo de La Paz Monday #13
"Great Depression caused by over-production, not tariffs." BumRushDaShow Monday #23
We had to destroy the village ... Tarzanrock Monday #3
Putin's Tariffs! sunflowerseed Monday #4
Oh Prairie Gates Monday #5
This jackass loves to tax Americans. gordianot Monday #6
You big time Corporate asshats wanted this baffoon,you got him. Bengus81 Monday #7
I hope his targets hit back hard enough to hurt the corporate asshats. Magoo48 Monday #20
Tuvalu deserves it Renew Deal Monday #8
Next after Greenland? wolfie001 Monday #11
He's gonna back off when the markets tank. Just like before wolfie001 Monday #9
IOW BumRushDaShow Monday #10
"In other words" wolfie001 Monday #12
LOL BumRushDaShow Monday #15
Probably. The idiot has no idea of what he's doing. brush Monday #29
Yep! A party of spineless weasels nt wolfie001 Monday #35
Wonderful..I'm looking forward to this. chouchou Monday #14
We Americans should REFUSE TO BUY stuff FakeNoose Monday #17
Yes, those of us able should begin self imposed austarity immediately. Magoo48 Monday #21
Bueller.... Jughead Monday #19
I shot the Tariffs! But I did not kill the Deficit! Xipe Totec Monday #24
I'll give ya a DUzy! BumRushDaShow Monday #25
So... manufactured global economic crisis? sakabatou Monday #26
The world put tariffs on russia because of Ukraine Nigrum Cattus Monday #27
Orange shithead's murder/suicide Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #28
He is completely out of his fuckin mind. Initech Monday #30
I'm pretty much expecting him to call it off at the last minute . . . so his billionaire buddies can Vinca Monday #31
So now ALL of the oil we buy from the middle east will be tariffed too, increasing our gas prices / petroleum prices SWBTATTReg Monday #32
He won't stop until he's 'proved' that he was right. Just like that wildfire 'faucet' travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #42
And will only end for the countries that kiss his fat ass... ananda Monday #34
Complete, batshit insanity.... LudwigPastorius Monday #36
He loves having the whole world at his feet, breathinglessly awaiting his words. NH Ethylene Tuesday #38
It's "reality show" television tactics - the "cliffhanger" BumRushDaShow Tuesday #39
Get ready for the recession... WorkingClassMan 14 hrs ago #40
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote 11 hrs ago #43
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