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In reply to the discussion: 'Incorrect!' Kristi Noem shamed on live TV for ignorance about habeas corpus [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(168,403 posts)23. Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus
The homeland security secretary was asked to define habeas corpus. Her outrageously wrong answer was humiliating but it was also important.
It's tempting to laugh at Kristi Noemâs humiliating ignorance about the meaning of habeas corpus, but this isnât just some embarrassing gaffe.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-20T16:48:08.242Z
Given the scope of her powers, her cluelessness matters.
(And in a healthier environment, Noem would be forced to resign in embarrassment right about now.)
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kristi-noem-flunks-important-test-basic-meaning-habeas-corpus-rcna207982
Theres been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. Whats gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Theres been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. Whats gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the governments power to detain people actually gives President Trump a constitutional right to conduct deportations.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmbmmjkjk2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FM7Qndazh
.....In case this werent quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmdrjzm4k2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FlyrF0Vwh
The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful officials ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are actively looking at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.
Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldnt even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.
In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the governments power to detain people actually gives President Trump a constitutional right to conduct deportations.
Theres been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. Whats gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the governments power to detain people actually gives President Trump a constitutional right to conduct deportations.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmbmmjkjk2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FM7Qndazh
Link to tweet
.....In case this werent quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmdrjzm4k2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FlyrF0Vwh
Link to tweet
The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful officials ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are actively looking at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.
Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldnt even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.
In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.
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'Incorrect!' Kristi Noem shamed on live TV for ignorance about habeas corpus [View all]
Ranting Randy
May 2025
OP
She knows what it is. She is lying so the MAGA base never understands what is happening until it is far too late
LiberalLoner
May 2025
#13
Until George W. Bush came along, I didn't realize how easy it was for so many talentless people
Aristus
May 2025
#6
Oh, come on now!!! Little Kristi 'sposed to be able to flash her plastic smile and get away with anything because she's
hamsterjill
May 2025
#15
I think it is not that she doesn't know...she is lying to make the MAGA base believe
LiberalLoner
May 2025
#12
It's hard to believe she is that ignorant of the law...and hasn't been appointed Attorney General by Trump. Yet.
Midnight Writer
May 2025
#11
She thinks that Habeus Corpuse is a privledge that we enjoy at the pleasure of the President
ToxMarz
May 2025
#18
Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus
LetMyPeopleVote
May 2025
#23
Our country is in the hands of the stupidest people alive for a 24/7 reality show.
Initech
May 2025
#24
There's something oddly creepy about Kristi Noem who didn't get her Bachelors Degree until she was 41 online
LetMyPeopleVote
May 2025
#25