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In reply to the discussion: Palestinians gunned down while trying to reach food aid site in Gaza, hospital says [View all]AloeVera
(3,672 posts)34. It's not Haaretz saying that. It's the new "IDF says...".
Why is it so hard to believe Palestinians? Scores of eyewitnesses are disregarded, while clinging desparately to the denial of one agency with shady provenance and beginnnings tied to Netanyahu's office and supported by Trump. Both wannabe ethnic cleansers and the worst of humanity.
From your article in Haaretz:
Eyewitnesses said thousands of people headed toward the distribution site hours before dawn, congregating at the Flag Roundabout, about a kilometer (1,000 yards) away, as they waited for the site to open. They said Israeli forces ordered people to disperse and come back later before opening fire.
" They asked us to wait for 6 in the morning, and that we come through one secured corridor," said one Palestinian woman who was in the crowd. "We were thousands, if not more, coming from Gaza [City], Jabalya, Deir al-Balah, and other areas."
"Once we started going through the corridor, they opened fire from all directions," she added. "We didn't understand where the soldiers came from."
Amr Abu Teiba, who was also on the scene, backed up her account, saying, "There was fire from all directions, from naval warships, from tanks and drones."
He said he saw at least 10 bodies with gunshot wounds and several other wounded people, including women. People used carts to ferry the dead and wounded to the field hospital. "The scene was horrible," he said.
Ibrahim Abu Saoud, another eyewitness, provided a nearly identical account. He said the military fired around 300 meters (yards) away.
Abu Saoud said he saw many people with gunshot wounds, including a young man who he said had died at the scene. "We weren't able to help him," he said.
Mohammed Abu Teaima, 33, said he saw Israeli forces open fire and kill his cousin and another woman as they were heading toward the distribution site. He said his cousin was shot in his chest and died at the scene. Many others were wounded, including his brother-in-law, he said.
" They asked us to wait for 6 in the morning, and that we come through one secured corridor," said one Palestinian woman who was in the crowd. "We were thousands, if not more, coming from Gaza [City], Jabalya, Deir al-Balah, and other areas."
"Once we started going through the corridor, they opened fire from all directions," she added. "We didn't understand where the soldiers came from."
Amr Abu Teiba, who was also on the scene, backed up her account, saying, "There was fire from all directions, from naval warships, from tanks and drones."
He said he saw at least 10 bodies with gunshot wounds and several other wounded people, including women. People used carts to ferry the dead and wounded to the field hospital. "The scene was horrible," he said.
Ibrahim Abu Saoud, another eyewitness, provided a nearly identical account. He said the military fired around 300 meters (yards) away.
Abu Saoud said he saw many people with gunshot wounds, including a young man who he said had died at the scene. "We weren't able to help him," he said.
Mohammed Abu Teaima, 33, said he saw Israeli forces open fire and kill his cousin and another woman as they were heading toward the distribution site. He said his cousin was shot in his chest and died at the scene. Many others were wounded, including his brother-in-law, he said.
To deny food and aid for 10 weeks and then shoot at people desparate for the food you've denied them is unprecedented in its cruelty. In my lifetime.
The suffering in Gaza is unimaginable. No defense, no excuse.
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Palestinians gunned down while trying to reach food aid site in Gaza, hospital says [View all]
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2025
OP
"Gaza aid group denies claims of IDF attack near Rafah distribution point."
madaboutharry
Jun 2025
#3
If 6 times more people think someone is wrong, in opinion or fact, that 1 person probably is wrong.
Exp
Jun 2025
#101
It can also mean that 6 times more people amounts to only 6 people who think I am wrong.
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#102
the orginization that calimed certain people were on its board when they werent?
moonshinegnomie
Jun 2025
#23
The organization that was at the scene to witness the event and videotape it.
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#27
Greatest excuse ever invented to indiscriminately murder and mass-starve civilians in aid of ethnic cleansing
AloeVera
Jun 2025
#44
Hey, our own American media runs lies every day originating from a terrorist organization
Jack Valentino
Jun 2025
#79
And we all know that thre is not a single terrorist leader in Gaza who would benefit from instigating violence
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#4
Sure, it's not the lying "local reporters" that BBC admits it employs, it's the BBC.
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#6
"There were many martyrs, including women," the 40-year-old resident said.
AZLD4Candidate
Jun 2025
#7
I would also wonder how Hamas fighters could be be hiding in plain sight
AZLD4Candidate
Jun 2025
#68
And the elected Hamas government that did the action that started this war gets off scot free?
AZLD4Candidate
Jun 2025
#15
Following that logic, China should attack Japan because those wounds aren't healed.
AZLD4Candidate
Jun 2025
#77
I read Harretz, the newspaper that netanyaho is threatening to ban in Israel....
Butterflylady
Jun 2025
#21
"Why is it so hard to believe Palestinians?" Which Palestinians are you talking about?
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#40
Just the fact that thousands of people have to get up before dawn to wait for food burns my soul.
mjvpi
Jun 2025
#62
"Gaza is the low point in my lifetime as far as the extremes of what humans can do to each other."
EX500rider
Jun 2025
#78
Point taken. I am not young. I was not aware of my country directly supplying high tech weaponry.....
mjvpi
Jun 2025
#82
No "walking back" or claim that the info in the OP is "lies" in those excerpts (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2025
#54
Your OP cites The Guardian: "Palestinians gunned down while trying to reach food aid site in Gaza, hospital says"
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#71
you mean th egroup that murdered 15 aid workers and tried to cover it up?
moonshinegnomie
Jun 2025
#39
Hamas murdered 15 aid workers and tried to cover it up? Why isn't it in the news?
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#45
Fucking insane, hateful bastards. This shit just doesn't stop. Who are you going to believe? Just view the before and
Exp
Jun 2025
#37
Is the UN using food as bait to..(well, I am not sure who they are supposed to bait and for what purpose)?
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#41
It's not that complicated. Say, much less complicated than bombing an entire culture out of existence.
Exp
Jun 2025
#57
Call me crazy, but I think a massacre not happening at the food distribution center is a pretty convincing
Beastly Boy
Jun 2025
#94
No, that's the BBC saying an Al Jazeera journalist made a false claim about a video
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2025
#85
From the OP's link: "Officials at the field hospital did not say who opened fire..."
lapucelle
Jun 2025
#99