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Fiendish Thingy

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3. As horrible as it is, it's not apparently illegal or unconstitutional
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:39 PM
Jun 22

According to the War Powers Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

The War Powers Resolution (also known as the War Powers Resolution of 1973 or the War Powers Act) (50 U.S.C. ch. 33) is a federal law intended to check the U.S. president's power to commit the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of the U.S. Congress. The resolution was adopted in the form of a United States congressional joint resolution. It provides that the president can send the U.S. Armed Forces into action abroad only by declaration of war by Congress, "statutory authorization", or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces".

The bill was introduced by Clement Zablocki, a Democratic congressman representing Wisconsin's 4th district. The bill had bipartisan support and was co-sponsored by a number of U.S. military veterans.[1] The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. The resolution was passed by two-thirds each of the House and Senate, overriding the veto of President Richard Nixon.

It has been alleged that the War Powers Resolution has been violated in the past. However, Congress has disapproved all such incidents, and no allegations have resulted in successful legal actions taken against a president.[2]


Tons of precedents of presidents ordering military action without authorization from congress, including by Clinton and Obama.

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Shady Vance is a profligate liar UpInArms Jun 22 #1
Outrage needs to be our message.... FarPoint Jun 22 #2
As horrible as it is, it's not apparently illegal or unconstitutional Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #3
I think the issue is the "notification" part BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #6
Good point PatSeg Jun 22 #7
Normally they give the "Gang of 8" a heads-up/briefing BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #8
It is all so surreal PatSeg Jun 22 #16
They made a consicous decision BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #17
And so typical of many republicans, PatSeg Jun 22 #18
I saw reports that Himes and Warner weren't briefed Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #11
"Traditionally" (where those members can then notify their Caucuses) BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #14
I don't think it's "48 hours before" -- just *within* 48 hours. LauraInLA Jun 22 #19
Again - I expect "traditionally" BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #20
The language is "within 48 hours", so after, not before. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #22
But they don't wait until AFTER the "public announcement" (meaning non-classified informational announcement) BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #24
Indeed, but do you expect Bondi to prosecute? Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #25
It's more a matter of finding and drafting legislation to close what has become an obvious "loophole" BumRushDaShow Jun 22 #29
The only way out of this is for We, The People, to remove them debsy Jun 22 #4
Oh, look at JD he is making a joke. sheshe2 Jun 22 #5
Vance: "IMPEACH TRUMP?" .... make my day, suckers. NT usonian Jun 22 #9
What an effing joke Vance is. 🤬 ShazzieB Jun 22 #10
He's so far out of his league it's embarrassing Blue Owl Jun 22 #12
The only way it's not Unconstitutional is if was a real danger directly to the US so he'd better have some evidence. cstanleytech Jun 22 #13
One problem - there are no "legal" persons in this administration. flashman13 Jun 22 #15
It's only going to work if they BOTH get impeached together FakeNoose Jun 22 #21
how much you wanna bet Skittles Jun 22 #23
I've seen this WMD movie before BoRaGard Jun 22 #26
It is up to Congress to decide if it is a high crime or misdemeanor. Not the lawyers. Walleye Jun 22 #27
No wonder the Pope doesn't like him. IcyPeas Jun 22 #28
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