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BumRushDaShow

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9. However NOAA has always worked with NASA and DOD
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 03:14 PM
Jun 28

to utilize everything that is in orbit that is contributing scientific readings.

The "Hurricane Hunters" aren't just NOAA pilots but they rotate flights with the Airforce and their pilots to fly into the cyclones and release dropsondes. and since they cut a bunch, you have less flights into these storms.

Chaos at FEMA, NOAA as hurricane season starts

By Chelsea Harvey, Adam Aton, Thomas Frank | 06/02/2025 06:11 AM

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At the same time, NWS’ Hurricane Hunter program, which flies aircraft into the hearts of tropical cyclones to collect information on wind speeds and other conditions, is operating at reduced capacity. The measurements feed hurricane forecasts in real time and help long-term research on tropical cyclones. A recent Government Accountability Office report found that staffing shortages and aircraft problems have led to flight cancellations in recent years.

The Trump administration laid off several employees involved in the Hurricane Hunter missions. It’s also proposed eliminating funding for NOAA’s network of laboratories and cooperative research institutes, including the University of Miami’s Cooperative Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Studies, whose scientists collect key data on the Hurricane Hunter flights. If Congress approved the budget cuts, NOAA would lose access to many of the laboratories that help build and maintain its weather forecasts.

The Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies, housed at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, analyzes satellite data on strengthening hurricanes. It’s the only institute in the country that monitors hurricane wind fields in real time as they form and intensify, according to institute Director Tristan L’Ecuyer, making it an essential component of NOAA’s hurricane forecasting system.

Meanwhile, staffing cuts have hit some of the NOAA offices responsible for designing and maintaining national weather models, like the National Centers for Environmental Prediction. “We’ve lost some of the staff that takes care of the quality control, that takes care of making sure that the models are really performing up to par,” Friday said. With less data to feed the weather models and less quality control, weather forecasts won’t improve over time — and they may even degrade, some experts said.

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They recently upgraded the supercomputers used to run the various global (e.g, GFS) and convective (e.g., NAM) models, usually 4 times per day. They get fed all kinds of data. The so-called "spaghetti models" are mostly aviation (I think including military) data-generated. And although NOAA has just barely been able to get some "newer" geostationary satellites in orbit - what are now known as GOES-EAST and GOES-WEST (plus I think a polar one recently), anything up there that can "fill in blind spots" helps with forecasting (even if it's older stuff) - and notably to look for what is becoming more and more common - frequent instances of "rapid intensification" (RI) of hurricanes due to climate change.

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BASTARDS! bluestarone Jun 28 #1
MAGA sadists love injuring/killing people and destroying property. Irish_Dem Jun 28 #2
shithole administration and the GQP want to physically destroy the USA and it's people.................. Lovie777 Jun 28 #3
Kiss insurance goodbye in coastal states like Florida NickB79 Jun 28 #4
Thought Rebl2 Jun 28 #22
Apparently, this has been under consideration for years. Don't think we'll wake up one morning with an unforcasted Silent Type Jun 28 #5
However NOAA has always worked with NASA and DOD BumRushDaShow Jun 28 #9
Thanks! Not exactly a "sudden loss"..... reACTIONary Jun 28 #19
How much would you bet that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 28 #6
It might set us back to where beautiful virgins are left at the gates of Mar a Lago tanyev Jun 28 #7
I wonder if there is a private corporation in the waiting in the wings... Shipwack Jun 28 #8
Weather Wise from Ryan Hall SonOfNebanaube Jun 30 #23
"NOAA said they would not affect the quality of forecasting" PSPS Jun 28 #10
Was she hired just for her name? Bayard Jun 28 #11
This is all about privatization JoseBalow Jun 28 #12
That is the purpose. Remember during Reagan that the government could never do anything correctly, LiberalArkie Jun 28 #13
They want people to die. I really think that is the case. Cancer research cut. Meals on Wheels cut. Medicaid cut?? Evolve Dammit Jun 28 #14
snork AllaN01Bear Jun 28 #15
Not to worry... you can use Putin's Weather Report... BurnDoubt Jun 28 #16
Look at the bright side. Any hurricane that develops in the GULF OF MEXICO will hit a red state flashman13 Jun 28 #17
This is true Deminpenn Jun 28 #20
The payback in savings will be nothing compared to the loss from funding cuts. twodogsbarking Jun 28 #18
This is going to make hurricane season a little more exciting. republianmushroom Jun 28 #21
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