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18. Many people simply don't believe ANYTHING coming from the tRump administration

Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:38 AM

Jul 3

tRump can't speak three sentences without telling a lie, so why should we believe these numbers.

A report recently came out showing a decline in private sector jobs. That, coupled with all the federal job cuts forced by DOGE and tRump just doesn't add up to job growth.

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U.S. payrolls increased by 147,000 in June, more than expected [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 3 OP

Is the economic data being manipulated? Doodley Jul 3 #1

Due to all the court halts BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #4

Those numbers don't reflect what I see where I live mdbl Jul 3 #14

I, for one, do not believe this governmeont report. sinkingfeeling Jul 3 #2

I share your disbelief - it used to be adjusted months later rurallib Jul 3 #9

How come no Democrats are questioning the numbers? SCantiGOP Jul 3 #37

For reference, last month mahatmakanejeeves Jul 3 #3

I know that progree had been tracking the LPR for awhile BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #7

No worries... Hugin Jul 3 #5

The numbers reported are always seasonally adjusted. You don't need to use scare quotes. mathematic Jul 3 #27

Using so-called scare quotes is my right and privilege. Hugin Jul 3 #32

Kiss your rats cut goodbye, Krasnov speak easy Jul 3 #6

This doesn't jibe with the loss of 33,000 private sector jobs Ritabert Jul 3 #8

This article from yesterday (before this info was released) may provides some perspective... thesquanderer Jul 3 #11

Thanks but I still find the BLS finding questionable Ritabert Jul 3 #17

From CBS, 'Layoffs reach highest level since 2020, new data shows.' Hotler Jul 3 #23

That I believe. Ritabert Jul 3 #60

i know! I saw that as well..... samnsara Jul 3 #30

Yesterday's report was based on ADP figures, which aren't reliable. PSPS Jul 3 #38

I believe them over BLS. Ritabert Jul 3 #61

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lol. ok then. travelingthrulife Jul 3 #12

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Seems kind of odd given that private jobs were -33,000. travelingthrulife Jul 3 #15

Private jobs were +74k, not -33k. mathematic Jul 3 #21

so you are saying America is Great Again? uncle ray Jul 3 #16

Many people simply don't believe ANYTHING coming from the tRump administration groundloop Jul 3 #18

You actually believe this crap? And you joined DU just to post how great you think the regime is doing? sinkingfeeling Jul 3 #19

Sure we can Javaman Jul 3 #28

What do you credit this fantastic news to? Tariffs? marble falls Jul 3 #29

Why should we trust that this data wasn't manipulated, in light of everything else we know? nt pnwmom Jul 3 #64

Welcome to DU IronLionZion Jul 3 #20

What do you credit for that excellent news? marble falls Jul 3 #26

Welcome to DU. It's nice to see you. littlemissmartypants Jul 3 #62

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #67

Looks like they cooked the private payroll figure Historic NY Jul 3 #22

ADP's private-payroll customers are concentrated in small-business sector PSPS Jul 3 #39

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"When I suggested that the booming economy should have been a major campaign." BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #31

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Here in SE PA, we were IINUNDATED with ads BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #36

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So you were watching EVERY media format 24/7 in order to determine that? BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #43

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These people CHOSE to respond to cultural/wedge issues BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #53

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I think the complete over-saturation of political ads BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #59

Pre-November, a lot of people didn't see the economy as being so great, and it wasn't progree Jul 3 #45

LINKS to some BLS Data Series Numbers and Graphs - progree Jul 3 #25

Thank you! The actual jobs numbers can be very confusing, thanx again n/t Cheezoholic Jul 3 #42

And thank you, I appreciate that. It's all quite quite confusing, and baffling /nt progree Jul 3 #46

Yes, the one that gets me (and I believe was mentioned in the OP) is the people that fall off the Unemployment rolls Cheezoholic Jul 3 #66

Something smells fishy Fiendish Thingy Jul 3 #34

The break-even for job growth in the US is around 150,000... Hugin Jul 3 #35

Yesterday's report was from ADP, which reflects only a small slice of the workforce. PSPS Jul 3 #41

Yup, the ADP numbers cover only about 20% of the nation's private workforce. progree Jul 3 #50

If we're going to talk about the ADP Employment Report, we should go to their site to see how they measure things. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 3 #44

I remember 200k as being the minimum new jobs JanMichael Jul 3 #47

Maddow Blog-New U.S. job numbers show 2025 is off to a discouragingly sluggish start LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #48

Hmmm, darn, that's right. Lowest January-June job growth since 2010 except for 2020 pandemic year progree Jul 3 #55

Yet ADP says otherwise Owens Jul 3 #51

Am I missing something here. republianmushroom Jul 3 #52

"Cook the Books" ZDU Jul 3 #54

Even Bloomberg is calling bs electricmonk Jul 3 #57

I found it - progree Jul 3 #63

Thanks for the additional info n/t electricmonk Jul 3 #65

So they hired back people they fired Tree Lady Jul 3 #58

Both BLS And ADP Have Issues But ADP Has More Issues DallasNE Jul 4 #68