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progree

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63. I found it -
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jul 3
https://archive.ph/NjS1V

Bloomberg Economics’ Anna Wong says:

“June’s unemployment rate fell – defying our and the consensus forecast for a rise — and payrolls grew at a decent clip. But we don’t think this suggests the labor market is in solid shape, as the unemployment drop was due to exits from the labor force, while payroll gains were exaggerated by a Bureau of Labor Statistics model that seeks to measure the impact of business formations and closures.

Details indicate that hiring in private service jobs slowed in June as the cancellation of federal government contracts hits the education and health sectors. There’s little evidence of an impact on payrolls from the trade war, as the logistics sector held up as firms continue stockpiling inventory. We maintain our view that the FOMC will only cut interest rates once in 2025, at the last meeting of the year in December.”

Terminal subscribers can read BE’s first take here. ((there's no link, so I guess This is it -Progree))
Michael Arnold
Bloomberg Economics Editor


There are a lot of other interesting comments from knowledgable sources

I've just picked three --

The reliance on state and local government jobs for about half of the June payroll gain also complicates the messaging for the Trump administration. Because they’ve been slamming the job market under Biden as one that was depending on the public sector. This team is all about re-energizing the private economy.
Chris Anstey
Senior Editor


Jeffrey Rosenberg, a senior portfolio manager at BlackRock, says on Bloomberg TV that the reliance on state and local governments here actually shows that the June payrolls gain was weaker than expected.

Indeed, look at the private payrolls estimate, which was 100,000. That came in at 74,000. That’s down from 137,000 in May.
Chris Anstey
Senior Editor


If we consider that the “breakeven” jobs gain — the increase needed to absorb new entrants to the labor force — is 100,000 or lower, down from the past few years when surging immigration had inflated that figure, then 147,000 is all the stronger a reading.
Chris Anstey
Senior Editor


I could do this all day, there are many more such

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Is the economic data being manipulated? Doodley Jul 3 #1
Due to all the court halts BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #4
Those numbers don't reflect what I see where I live mdbl Jul 3 #14
I, for one, do not believe this governmeont report. sinkingfeeling Jul 3 #2
I share your disbelief - it used to be adjusted months later rurallib Jul 3 #9
How come no Democrats are questioning the numbers? SCantiGOP Jul 3 #37
For reference, last month mahatmakanejeeves Jul 3 #3
I know that progree had been tracking the LPR for awhile BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #7
No worries... Hugin Jul 3 #5
The numbers reported are always seasonally adjusted. You don't need to use scare quotes. mathematic Jul 3 #27
Using so-called scare quotes is my right and privilege. Hugin Jul 3 #32
Kiss your rats cut goodbye, Krasnov speak easy Jul 3 #6
This doesn't jibe with the loss of 33,000 private sector jobs Ritabert Jul 3 #8
This article from yesterday (before this info was released) may provides some perspective... thesquanderer Jul 3 #11
Thanks but I still find the BLS finding questionable Ritabert Jul 3 #17
From CBS, 'Layoffs reach highest level since 2020, new data shows.' Hotler Jul 3 #23
That I believe. Ritabert Jul 3 #60
i know! I saw that as well..... samnsara Jul 3 #30
Yesterday's report was based on ADP figures, which aren't reliable. PSPS Jul 3 #38
I believe them over BLS. Ritabert Jul 3 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 3 #10
lol. ok then. travelingthrulife Jul 3 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 3 #13
Seems kind of odd given that private jobs were -33,000. travelingthrulife Jul 3 #15
Private jobs were +74k, not -33k. mathematic Jul 3 #21
so you are saying America is Great Again? uncle ray Jul 3 #16
Many people simply don't believe ANYTHING coming from the tRump administration groundloop Jul 3 #18
You actually believe this crap? And you joined DU just to post how great you think the regime is doing? sinkingfeeling Jul 3 #19
Sure we can Javaman Jul 3 #28
What do you credit this fantastic news to? Tariffs? marble falls Jul 3 #29
Why should we trust that this data wasn't manipulated, in light of everything else we know? nt pnwmom Jul 3 #64
Welcome to DU IronLionZion Jul 3 #20
What do you credit for that excellent news? marble falls Jul 3 #26
Welcome to DU. It's nice to see you. littlemissmartypants Jul 3 #62
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #67
Looks like they cooked the private payroll figure Historic NY Jul 3 #22
ADP's private-payroll customers are concentrated in small-business sector PSPS Jul 3 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author PennRalphie Jul 3 #24
"When I suggested that the booming economy should have been a major campaign." BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #31
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Here in SE PA, we were IINUNDATED with ads BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #36
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So you were watching EVERY media format 24/7 in order to determine that? BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #43
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These people CHOSE to respond to cultural/wedge issues BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #53
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I think the complete over-saturation of political ads BumRushDaShow Jul 3 #59
Pre-November, a lot of people didn't see the economy as being so great, and it wasn't progree Jul 3 #45
LINKS to some BLS Data Series Numbers and Graphs - progree Jul 3 #25
Thank you! The actual jobs numbers can be very confusing, thanx again n/t Cheezoholic Jul 3 #42
And thank you, I appreciate that. It's all quite quite confusing, and baffling /nt progree Jul 3 #46
Yes, the one that gets me (and I believe was mentioned in the OP) is the people that fall off the Unemployment rolls Cheezoholic Jul 3 #66
Something smells fishy Fiendish Thingy Jul 3 #34
The break-even for job growth in the US is around 150,000... Hugin Jul 3 #35
Yesterday's report was from ADP, which reflects only a small slice of the workforce. PSPS Jul 3 #41
Yup, the ADP numbers cover only about 20% of the nation's private workforce. progree Jul 3 #50
If we're going to talk about the ADP Employment Report, we should go to their site to see how they measure things. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 3 #44
I remember 200k as being the minimum new jobs JanMichael Jul 3 #47
Maddow Blog-New U.S. job numbers show 2025 is off to a discouragingly sluggish start LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #48
Hmmm, darn, that's right. Lowest January-June job growth since 2010 except for 2020 pandemic year progree Jul 3 #55
Yet ADP says otherwise Owens Jul 3 #51
Am I missing something here. republianmushroom Jul 3 #52
"Cook the Books" ZDU Jul 3 #54
Even Bloomberg is calling bs electricmonk Jul 3 #57
I found it - progree Jul 3 #63
Thanks for the additional info n/t electricmonk Jul 3 #65
So they hired back people they fired Tree Lady Jul 3 #58
Both BLS And ADP Have Issues But ADP Has More Issues DallasNE Jul 4 #68
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