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Johnny2X2X

(23,204 posts)
25. Agree
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 02:36 PM
Jul 15

"The Red States are hellish Shitholes." wins. "It's complicated, so let's discuss the details" loses.

You can support your original point with anecdotes and facts, but just saying, "well, it's not that simple" is why we lose.

I'm glad to see Newsom out there defending California, it's high time someone did that after decades of falsehoods that have created a fantasy that half the country believes about California. California is an amazing state and offers a lot to the 40 million people who choose to live there. We're left defending a state with the biggest economy, among the highest incomes, and that is a center for innovation. California has some problems, for sure, but why do Dems have to play defense endlessly on it, but no one ever asks any Republican to defend the poverty rates in MS, AL, and LA? Or the crime rates in WV, KY, or TN? Or the short life spans in OK, MO, and AR?

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I'm confused... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #1
I think they are comparing "net" differential BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #4
Yes, that's the data I was looking at SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #5
Oh I looked at it before posting the link BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #6
I've been in that rabbit hole for a few days now SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #7
And that's the kicker BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #10
Exactly! SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #11
The Dem leaders who gave us the biggest victories FDR/LBJ speak easy Jul 15 #2
Agreed. Show the enemy no quarter. Take no prisoners Walleye Jul 15 #3
we are all americans et tu Jul 15 #8
No. We did not move forward with the segregationists, speak easy Jul 15 #22
I've said for years the Democrats need another LBJ! slightlv Jul 15 #23
LBJ got a lot done and passed good things Tree Lady Jul 15 #28
And he had one hell of a mouth on him... slightlv Jul 15 #29
Newsome should start using the trade deficit analogy that Trump uses Historic NY Jul 15 #9
I'm probably alone in this opinion... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #13
GovNewsom is an in your face defender of Democracy who can communicate his/our message NoMoreRepugs Jul 15 #12
Better late than never Johnny2X2X Jul 15 #14
I think there needs to be more clarity... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #15
Nope Johnny2X2X Jul 15 #17
That's one way... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #18
Intellectual honesty in policy Johnny2X2X Jul 15 #19
Using this logic... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #20
I'm talking about a wider range of metrics than taker or donor Johnny2X2X Jul 15 #21
Thanks to TV and now digital devices and the Internet, slightlv Jul 15 #24
Agree Johnny2X2X Jul 15 #25
I got to visit San Diego... seems like a lifetime ago! slightlv Jul 15 #27
I think the problem BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #16
Time to build a coalition of blue ShepKat Jul 15 #26
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