Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

LeftInTX

(34,006 posts)
43. So, the far right is saying Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers Salt Lake City are
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:46 PM
Sep 18

supposedly behind Charlie Kirk's killing.

I stumbled on this because, I went down a rabbit hole looking for some background info on a local issue https://www.tpr.org/government-politics/2025-09-17/texas-rangers-uvalde-police-investigate-death-of-congressional-staffer-to-rep-tony-gonzales and the rumor happened to be coming from a far right person. Then, popped up recent tweets about Elm Fork and Armed Queers on his feed. (That person is a supporter of AKGuy who is running against Gonzales. AKGuy and Gonzales are both Republicans)

The far right refers to many groups that are antifascist as "antifa", which isn't accurate. Of course, Trump is also far right, so any group that is "antifascist" is "antifa" to him.

However, the leader of Armed Queers SLC is affiliated with the Party of Socialism and Liberation, which is totalitarian, which is pretty much the opposite of antifa.

So, it appears these are pop-up type protest groups, which are "anti-fascist". Fringe groups will often have seedy people hanging around, such as Benjamin Song and his crew.

There is no evidence that Armed Queers SLC had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. They're just a group that Trump doesn't like.


https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/john-brown-gun-club-armed-anti-fascist-1234733200/
https://efjbgc.noblogs.org/

https://www.fox4news.com/news/benjamin-song-suspect-immigration-center-attack-previously-sued-over-drag-show-counter-protest


Here is a quote from a far right tweet:

Armed Queers SLC co-hosted educational workshops with Elm Fork branch of the John Brown Gun Club, the trans antifa perpetuators behind the July 4 Alvarado ICE facility shooting.


To see the actual tweet go to: Texas Coalition for Kids and you will see the pinned tweet. I won't link from the site.


Also Sen Mike Lee recently tweeted a poster from Armed Queers of SLC and called it horrifying. (A dark haired woman who was armed LOL)


________________

If the FBI has concerns about the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers of SLC, they can surveil them. They can surveil just about anyone. However, they can't be designated as terrorist groups! Congress would have to create a law that allows domestic groups to be designated as terrorist groups. There is no such federal law. (States have domestic terrorism laws however) Trump tried to designate antifa as terrorist group in 2020. It didn't happen.


Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

no such thing...unless he says you're in it of course. the feuhrer has spoken nt msongs Sep 17 #1
Well, I guess, there goes WhiteTara Sep 17 #2
Did the MFer define Antifa or is that left to prosecutors? Think poster above is right, membership is zip. Silent Type Sep 17 #3
They're a real thing, but they are pretty much insignificant or least not worth FBI resources. LeftInTX Sep 18 #28
Where do I send my donation to Antifa?? lastlib Sep 17 #4
The same place that sends you your George Soros check Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 18 #22
I'm still waiting for my $5000 Doge check RazorbackExpat Sep 18 #32
If you go online there is no antifa website kimbutgar Sep 17 #5
He just criminalized my late father. BidenRocks Sep 17 #6
21st Century Don Quixote tonekat Sep 17 #7
They aren't even an organization IronLionZion Sep 17 #8
I found them! lastlib Sep 17 #9
Tell me you're Fascists without saying ... dweller Sep 17 #10
He's throwing crap against the wall Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #11
Trump is also calling for the arrest of Santa Claus SomedayKindaLove Sep 17 #12
Strongly disagree. mahina Sep 18 #27
Tooth Fairy is looking super suspicious IronLionZion Sep 18 #37
Breaking news: FiveFifteen Sep 17 #13
There is no "antifa" - how can it be a terrorist organization? FakeNoose Sep 17 #14
Hopefully angrychair Sep 17 #15
Trump's fascist ass is terrified of antifascists! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 17 #16
I guess all three of those kids should be worried. johnnyplankton Sep 17 #17
Obviously, Trump doesn't like anti-fascists because he is pro-fascist n/t AntiFascist Sep 17 #18
Ah! The "major terrorist organization" that doesn't even exist! Wiz Imp Sep 18 #19
There is no organization named Antifa LetMyPeopleVote Sep 18 #50
ummmmm moonshinegnomie Sep 18 #20
Exactly. LeftInTX Sep 18 #26
On the other hand, the biggest anti-fascist organization ever was the US military in WW II Wiz Imp Sep 18 #21
Antifa is anti-military. LeftInTX Sep 18 #25
This has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. Wiz Imp Sep 18 #56
Several of my uncles fought fascism in WWII, if they were alive they would be designated terrorists by the worst ImNotGod Sep 18 #23
Antifa is a real thing, but they have shrunk in size since 2020. I think most of moved on to other things LeftInTX Sep 18 #24
It's notable how little there is about "Antifa" activity after January 2021 muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #33
Yes, I noticed! LeftInTX Sep 18 #34
So, the far right is saying Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers Salt Lake City are LeftInTX Sep 18 #43
And Goldstein? usonian Sep 18 #29
Real Life Pictures of ANTIFA. aka anti fascists... June 6th, 1944 and today. Botany Sep 18 #30
The replies to Nance are so fucking stupid - "they have merch, of course they exist!" muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #31
aka any protests or marches against the orange asshole will be labeled Antifa. Javaman Sep 18 #35
Thought control. That is the game. twodogsbarking Sep 18 #36
OK, Donny. You can send an official letter of notification to their headquarters at tanyev Sep 18 #38
I am declaring the Obsidian Order, a terrorist organization, Miguelito Loveless Sep 18 #39
Again, like all the times before, the REAL terrorist's group calling other groups bluestarone Sep 18 #40
Trump's full of shit, as usual. oasis Sep 18 #41
Good luck finding the hideouts and the membership rolls. Aristus Sep 18 #42
Oh, I think that Trump already has an idea of where this "domestic terrorist organization" is. LudwigPastorius Sep 18 #57
So Cal Atifa was successfully busted last year, everyone convicted somsai Sep 18 #44
What do you mean by "busted"? Being anti-fascist is not something you can be "busted" for muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #45
physically threatening the judge and prosecutor is a big no no somsai Sep 18 #46
Yes, I googled. All I found was a judge being nice to Proud Boys about a fight with some Antifa. muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #49
Eight Antifa Defendants Sentenced in Pacific Beach Assault Case LeftInTX Sep 18 #47
The MaddowBlog-The unsettling consequence of Trump designating antifa as a 'major terrorist organization' LetMyPeopleVote Sep 18 #48
will he go after the IWW next? DBoon Sep 18 #51
This is to establish a predicate for... Wuddles440 Sep 18 #52
Psst. Hey Trump, Antifa is based om the dakside of the Moon. GreenWave Sep 18 #53
I am certain Hitler also despised the RAF UpInArms Sep 18 #54
All of us should put a little sticker on our door. Captain Zero Sep 18 #55
If you are anti-AntiFa, then you are a fascist LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #58
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Trump announces he's desi...»Reply #43