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20. Does anyone trust any numbers from a Trump admin?

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Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:01 PM

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Because I sure don't.

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The US economy grew at a 3.8% rate in the second quarter, significantly stronger than previously reported [View all] BumRushDaShow Thursday OP

Sure it did. LudwigPastorius Thursday #1

First thing I thought: U.S. Commerce Department is putting out these numbers, Lutnick doesn't want to be fired. sop Thursday #2

If those numbers are accurate, maybe they represent spending before tariffs spooky3 Thursday #3

It includes Libation Day (sp) in April, with front running & all kinds of unusual adjustments by corps to TACO. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #16

Sure, Jan. Scrivener7 Thursday #4

Awful that we have to wonder if official reports and stats are trustworthy. But there's good reason. And awful that wiggs Thursday #5

no need to decrease interest rates then, Mr Powell chicoescuela Thursday #6

So no more interest rate cuts? Raven123 Thursday #7

Has this been independently verified? greatauntoftriplets Thursday #8

The data for the next ten quarters is available and waiting to be released. twodogsbarking Thursday #9

Impossible Nigrum Cattus Thursday #10

Go to the web site or talk to an economist. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #17

Wait a while johnnyfins Thursday #11

Yes, the economy is artificially boosted by AI capex (data centres, energy) Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #19

The real data will be Tax receipts IbogaProject Thursday #29

AI Capex, while strong, is not driving GDP growth lapfog_1 Yesterday #53

They are moving to throw up data centres as fast as they can. There is construction, purchase of gas turbines, etc. Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #57

and there's swamp land in Yuma mdbl Thursday #12

Reporting anything less than 3x reality gets you fired ThoughtCriminal Thursday #13

You just shat on all the career professionals there. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #18

Sure, blame our own ThreeNoSeep Thursday #24

How Dare You. Insulting people you don't know over facts you don't understand. Wiz Imp Thursday #31

Thank you. As if not getting fired automatically makes a worker corrupt. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #34

That's all true OrwellwasRight Yesterday #42

Everything he said would prevent a political appointee from juicing numbers. Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #43

Thank you! You are right about everything. Wiz Imp Yesterday #46

The process makes it virtually impossible. Wiz Imp Yesterday #47

Nobody cares. Igel 22 hrs ago #66

And when the reports are especially bad, like the last 2 payroll jobs reports, and the May retail sales progree 19 hrs ago #67

Agreed - although I myself learned long ago that going through the mental contortions required to willfully Midwestern Democrat 14 hrs ago #68

Reporting it accurately in Trump's maladministration and you are fired. travelingthrulife Yesterday #49

Elevated spending because costs are increased by tariffs? nilram Thursday #14

LOL. "revised higher largely due to new additional data" PSPS Thursday #15

For some reason, I'm sure you had no problems believing the 1st quarter GDP Wiz Imp Thursday #32

In Fairness RobinA 22 hrs ago #65

Does anyone trust any numbers from a Trump admin? ananda Thursday #20

I no longer trust numbers from trump LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #21

Hmmm lonely bird Thursday #22

The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was a progree Thursday #36

Okaaaay lonely bird Yesterday #45

Cool story, bro🙄nt Javaman Thursday #23

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, Hayabusa Thursday #25

... UpInArms Thursday #26

Bullshit. AltairIV Thursday #27

As the members of Delta Tau Chi would say it. CentralMass Thursday #28

Um! ProfessorGAC Thursday #30

The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was 6.0% progree Thursday #37

Thanks, I Missed That ProfessorGAC Yesterday #44

But does "inflation-adjusted," adjust for tariff increases? Doodley Yesterday #55

This message was self-deleted by its author progree Yesterday #61

New answer: Apparently not, if AI is to be believed progree Yesterday #62

Thank you for the info. So, tariffs could, at least partly, be distorting the numbers. Doodley 23 hrs ago #64

A major reason for the increase is actually a quirk in how the GDP is calculated. Wiz Imp Thursday #33

They're messing with the numbers. n/t aggiesal Thursday #35

Yah right Lemon Lyman Thursday #38

I don't believe it at all. CaptainTruth Thursday #39

I was expecting 38%, 3800%, or 38,000,000%. So disappointing. hay rick Thursday #40

I don't Rebl2 Thursday #41

Just like voting, Spending boycotts only work if people participate. Hotler Yesterday #48

Instead of trafficking in conspiracy theories about how everything is "fake" (it's not) Wiz Imp Yesterday #50

Sure it did. Ocelot II Yesterday #51

I trust no numbers coming from this gang. Ritabert Yesterday #52

nice, cnn! way to spin "inflation was even higher than previously thought" as a positive thing. unblock Yesterday #54

The "personal consumption expenditures price index" is reportedly the Fed's favorite inflation gauge progree Yesterday #63

Do we believe this? No. WhiteTara Yesterday #56

I'm surprised they didn't report 38 percent Bristlecone Yesterday #58

Yeah sure kimbutgar Yesterday #59

I don't believe it. Paper profits, at best, outright lying and statistics manipulation at worst. /nt artemisia1 Yesterday #60