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Wiz Imp

(7,496 posts)
31. How Dare You. Insulting people you don't know over facts you don't understand.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 07:51 PM
Thursday
In case you haven't noticed, there are plenty of people in this "community" who are willing to buy into any conspiracy that fits their preconceived expectation. Nobody is shaming anyone here. However, many here are unfairly shitting on the career statistical employees of the Federal Government. Apparently, that's perfectly fine with you calling lifetime civil servants mindless idiots who will do whatever they are told. That is absolutely ridiculous to believe such a thing. As I've said over 100 times here, I'm a career government statistician who knows how these programs work and know that these career statisticians, many of whom I know personally, will never give in to political pressure to manipulate data. They will resign first. If/when this administration tries to manipulate data , unless they fire every single career statistician first, it will be made obvious because there will be whistleblowers informing the public of the facts.

Don't even try arguing with me on this. You're way out of your league. I know what I'm talking about. You don't.

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Sure it did. LudwigPastorius Thursday #1
First thing I thought: U.S. Commerce Department is putting out these numbers, Lutnick doesn't want to be fired. sop Thursday #2
If those numbers are accurate, maybe they represent spending before tariffs spooky3 Thursday #3
It includes Libation Day (sp) in April, with front running & all kinds of unusual adjustments by corps to TACO. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #16
Sure, Jan. Scrivener7 Thursday #4
Awful that we have to wonder if official reports and stats are trustworthy. But there's good reason. And awful that wiggs Thursday #5
no need to decrease interest rates then, Mr Powell chicoescuela Thursday #6
So no more interest rate cuts? Raven123 Thursday #7
Has this been independently verified? greatauntoftriplets Thursday #8
The data for the next ten quarters is available and waiting to be released. twodogsbarking Thursday #9
Impossible Nigrum Cattus Thursday #10
Go to the web site or talk to an economist. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #17
Wait a while johnnyfins Thursday #11
Yes, the economy is artificially boosted by AI capex (data centres, energy) Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #19
The real data will be Tax receipts IbogaProject Thursday #29
AI Capex, while strong, is not driving GDP growth lapfog_1 Yesterday #53
They are moving to throw up data centres as fast as they can. There is construction, purchase of gas turbines, etc. Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #57
and there's swamp land in Yuma mdbl Thursday #12
Reporting anything less than 3x reality gets you fired ThoughtCriminal Thursday #13
You just shat on all the career professionals there. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #18
Sure, blame our own ThreeNoSeep Thursday #24
How Dare You. Insulting people you don't know over facts you don't understand. Wiz Imp Thursday #31
Thank you. As if not getting fired automatically makes a worker corrupt. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #34
That's all true OrwellwasRight Yesterday #42
Everything he said would prevent a political appointee from juicing numbers. Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #43
Thank you! You are right about everything. Wiz Imp Yesterday #46
The process makes it virtually impossible. Wiz Imp Yesterday #47
Nobody cares. Igel Yesterday #66
And when the reports are especially bad, like the last 2 payroll jobs reports, and the May retail sales progree Yesterday #67
Agreed - although I myself learned long ago that going through the mental contortions required to willfully Midwestern Democrat 19 hrs ago #68
Reporting it accurately in Trump's maladministration and you are fired. travelingthrulife Yesterday #49
Elevated spending because costs are increased by tariffs? nilram Thursday #14
LOL. "revised higher largely due to new additional data" PSPS Thursday #15
For some reason, I'm sure you had no problems believing the 1st quarter GDP Wiz Imp Thursday #32
In Fairness RobinA Yesterday #65
Does anyone trust any numbers from a Trump admin? ananda Thursday #20
I no longer trust numbers from trump LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #21
Hmmm lonely bird Thursday #22
The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was a progree Thursday #36
Okaaaay lonely bird Yesterday #45
Cool story, bro🙄nt Javaman Thursday #23
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, Hayabusa Thursday #25
... UpInArms Thursday #26
Bullshit. AltairIV Thursday #27
As the members of Delta Tau Chi would say it. CentralMass Thursday #28
Um! ProfessorGAC Thursday #30
The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was 6.0% progree Thursday #37
Thanks, I Missed That ProfessorGAC Yesterday #44
But does "inflation-adjusted," adjust for tariff increases? Doodley Yesterday #55
This message was self-deleted by its author progree Yesterday #61
New answer: Apparently not, if AI is to be believed progree Yesterday #62
Thank you for the info. So, tariffs could, at least partly, be distorting the numbers. Doodley Yesterday #64
A major reason for the increase is actually a quirk in how the GDP is calculated. Wiz Imp Thursday #33
They're messing with the numbers. n/t aggiesal Thursday #35
Yah right Lemon Lyman Thursday #38
I don't believe it at all. CaptainTruth Thursday #39
I was expecting 38%, 3800%, or 38,000,000%. So disappointing. hay rick Thursday #40
I don't Rebl2 Thursday #41
Just like voting, Spending boycotts only work if people participate. Hotler Yesterday #48
Instead of trafficking in conspiracy theories about how everything is "fake" (it's not) Wiz Imp Yesterday #50
Sure it did. Ocelot II Yesterday #51
I trust no numbers coming from this gang. Ritabert Yesterday #52
nice, cnn! way to spin "inflation was even higher than previously thought" as a positive thing. unblock Yesterday #54
The "personal consumption expenditures price index" is reportedly the Fed's favorite inflation gauge progree Yesterday #63
Do we believe this? No. WhiteTara Yesterday #56
I'm surprised they didn't report 38 percent Bristlecone Yesterday #58
Yeah sure kimbutgar Yesterday #59
I don't believe it. Paper profits, at best, outright lying and statistics manipulation at worst. /nt artemisia1 Yesterday #60
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