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In reply to the discussion: The US economy grew at a 3.8% rate in the second quarter, significantly stronger than previously reported [View all]Wiz Imp
(7,526 posts)47. The process makes it virtually impossible.
As someone extremely familiar with the process, I'm going to copy the summary from Google's AI overview. In this case, I can attest to it being completely accurate. This overview summarizes it more clearly and succinctly than I could do myself.
The commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does not even see the jobs numbers before they are finalized. The process is intentionally designed to keep the commissioner, who is a political appointee, at arm's length from the data collection and estimation process to protect the integrity of the statistics.
Key details about the process:
Final numbers are locked in The commissioner is typically briefed on the final numbers on the Wednesday afternoon before the public release on Friday. By this point, the data is prepared, finalized, and locked into the system.
No role in estimation The commissioner plays no role in estimating or manipulating the figures. Their involvement is limited to reviewing the accompanying narrative for the public release, not altering the underlying data.
Internal safeguards The BLS maintains a strong culture of independence and has systems in place to prevent any single person, including the commissioner, from interfering with the data. Former commissioners have stated it would be impossible to manipulate the data without being detected, which would likely trigger whistleblowers and resignations.
Career staff handles data The numbers are collected and processed by nonpartisan career civil servants who have no connection to the political administration.
These safeguards came under scrutiny in August 2025 when then-President Donald Trump fired Commissioner Erika McEntarfer after a weak jobs report and baselessly alleged the numbers were "rigged". However, multiple former BLS officials, including those appointed by Trump, rejected the idea that the commissioner could manipulate the data.
Key details about the process:
Final numbers are locked in The commissioner is typically briefed on the final numbers on the Wednesday afternoon before the public release on Friday. By this point, the data is prepared, finalized, and locked into the system.
No role in estimation The commissioner plays no role in estimating or manipulating the figures. Their involvement is limited to reviewing the accompanying narrative for the public release, not altering the underlying data.
Internal safeguards The BLS maintains a strong culture of independence and has systems in place to prevent any single person, including the commissioner, from interfering with the data. Former commissioners have stated it would be impossible to manipulate the data without being detected, which would likely trigger whistleblowers and resignations.
Career staff handles data The numbers are collected and processed by nonpartisan career civil servants who have no connection to the political administration.
These safeguards came under scrutiny in August 2025 when then-President Donald Trump fired Commissioner Erika McEntarfer after a weak jobs report and baselessly alleged the numbers were "rigged". However, multiple former BLS officials, including those appointed by Trump, rejected the idea that the commissioner could manipulate the data.
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The US economy grew at a 3.8% rate in the second quarter, significantly stronger than previously reported [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Thursday
OP
First thing I thought: U.S. Commerce Department is putting out these numbers, Lutnick doesn't want to be fired.
sop
Thursday
#2
It includes Libation Day (sp) in April, with front running & all kinds of unusual adjustments by corps to TACO.
Bernardo de La Paz
Thursday
#16
Awful that we have to wonder if official reports and stats are trustworthy. But there's good reason. And awful that
wiggs
Thursday
#5
The data for the next ten quarters is available and waiting to be released.
twodogsbarking
Thursday
#9
Yes, the economy is artificially boosted by AI capex (data centres, energy)
Bernardo de La Paz
Thursday
#19
They are moving to throw up data centres as fast as they can. There is construction, purchase of gas turbines, etc.
Bernardo de La Paz
Friday
#57
Thank you. As if not getting fired automatically makes a worker corrupt.
Bernardo de La Paz
Thursday
#34
Everything he said would prevent a political appointee from juicing numbers.
Bernardo de La Paz
Friday
#43
And when the reports are especially bad, like the last 2 payroll jobs reports, and the May retail sales
progree
Friday
#67
Agreed - although I myself learned long ago that going through the mental contortions required to willfully
Midwestern Democrat
Saturday
#68
Reporting it accurately in Trump's maladministration and you are fired.
travelingthrulife
Friday
#49
The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was a
progree
Thursday
#36
The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was 6.0%
progree
Thursday
#37
Thank you for the info. So, tariffs could, at least partly, be distorting the numbers.
Doodley
Friday
#64
A major reason for the increase is actually a quirk in how the GDP is calculated.
Wiz Imp
Thursday
#33
Instead of trafficking in conspiracy theories about how everything is "fake" (it's not)
Wiz Imp
Friday
#50
nice, cnn! way to spin "inflation was even higher than previously thought" as a positive thing.
unblock
Friday
#54