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Wiz Imp

(7,532 posts)
50. Instead of trafficking in conspiracy theories about how everything is "fake" (it's not)
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 11:00 AM
Friday

I wish people would pay attention to why the data is real but extremely misleading. It is a quirk in how the GDP is calculated.

The "import effect" is a statistical distortion in the GDP calculation that causes a boost in the second quarter (Q2) following a surge in imports in the first quarter (Q1), even without a genuine change in domestic demand. It is an accounting anomaly resulting from businesses stockpiling foreign goods ahead of anticipated tariffs. 

How the import effect creates a statistical boost 

GDP formula: The standard formula for GDP is (Y=C+I+G+(X-M)), where M represents imports. Imports (M) are subtracted in the calculation to ensure that only domestically produced goods are counted.

Q1: Imports surge: Businesses "front-load" imports in anticipation of future tariffs to avoid higher costs. The value of these goods enters the Investment (I) component of the formula as inventory. But because the goods are foreign, an equal value is subtracted in the Imports (M) component. The two numbers cancel each other out, so GDP is not directly affected.

Q2: Imports fall: After stockpiling, businesses dramatically reduce their imports in the second quarter. The Imports (M) variable becomes a much smaller subtraction in the GDP calculation. This smaller negative figure causes a mathematical boost to the headline GDP number for Q2.

The illusion: This boost is an accounting artifact, not a reflection of real economic growth. The high headline GDP number in Q2 hides the fact that businesses had to scale back orders for domestically produced goods to avoid overstocking their bulging inventories. 

The effect on underlying domestic demand

A key indicator that separates the import effect from genuine economic strength is "final sales to private domestic purchasers," which measures purchases by U.S. households and businesses. A strong reading for this metric suggests robust domestic demand. In contrast, the import effect shows a scenario where domestic purchases are soft, but the headline GDP number is high due to the mathematical impact of falling imports.

For example, in Q1 2025, U.S. firms surged their imports while simultaneously reducing their purchases of domestically produced goods. In Q2, the subsequent plunge in imports led to a robust headline GDP figure, even though domestic demand was weak. In this way, the import effect can paint a misleading picture of economic health.

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Sure it did. LudwigPastorius Thursday #1
First thing I thought: U.S. Commerce Department is putting out these numbers, Lutnick doesn't want to be fired. sop Thursday #2
If those numbers are accurate, maybe they represent spending before tariffs spooky3 Thursday #3
It includes Libation Day (sp) in April, with front running & all kinds of unusual adjustments by corps to TACO. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #16
Sure, Jan. Scrivener7 Thursday #4
Awful that we have to wonder if official reports and stats are trustworthy. But there's good reason. And awful that wiggs Thursday #5
no need to decrease interest rates then, Mr Powell chicoescuela Thursday #6
So no more interest rate cuts? Raven123 Thursday #7
Has this been independently verified? greatauntoftriplets Thursday #8
The data for the next ten quarters is available and waiting to be released. twodogsbarking Thursday #9
Impossible Nigrum Cattus Thursday #10
Go to the web site or talk to an economist. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #17
Wait a while johnnyfins Thursday #11
Yes, the economy is artificially boosted by AI capex (data centres, energy) Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #19
The real data will be Tax receipts IbogaProject Thursday #29
AI Capex, while strong, is not driving GDP growth lapfog_1 Friday #53
They are moving to throw up data centres as fast as they can. There is construction, purchase of gas turbines, etc. Bernardo de La Paz Friday #57
and there's swamp land in Yuma mdbl Thursday #12
Reporting anything less than 3x reality gets you fired ThoughtCriminal Thursday #13
You just shat on all the career professionals there. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #18
Sure, blame our own ThreeNoSeep Thursday #24
How Dare You. Insulting people you don't know over facts you don't understand. Wiz Imp Thursday #31
Thank you. As if not getting fired automatically makes a worker corrupt. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #34
That's all true OrwellwasRight Friday #42
Everything he said would prevent a political appointee from juicing numbers. Bernardo de La Paz Friday #43
Thank you! You are right about everything. Wiz Imp Friday #46
The process makes it virtually impossible. Wiz Imp Friday #47
Nobody cares. Igel Friday #66
And when the reports are especially bad, like the last 2 payroll jobs reports, and the May retail sales progree Friday #67
Agreed - although I myself learned long ago that going through the mental contortions required to willfully Midwestern Democrat Saturday #68
Reporting it accurately in Trump's maladministration and you are fired. travelingthrulife Friday #49
Elevated spending because costs are increased by tariffs? nilram Thursday #14
LOL. "revised higher largely due to new additional data" PSPS Thursday #15
For some reason, I'm sure you had no problems believing the 1st quarter GDP Wiz Imp Thursday #32
In Fairness RobinA Friday #65
Does anyone trust any numbers from a Trump admin? ananda Thursday #20
I no longer trust numbers from trump LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #21
Hmmm lonely bird Thursday #22
The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was a progree Thursday #36
Okaaaay lonely bird Friday #45
Cool story, bro🙄nt Javaman Thursday #23
I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, Hayabusa Thursday #25
... UpInArms Thursday #26
Bullshit. AltairIV Thursday #27
As the members of Delta Tau Chi would say it. CentralMass Thursday #28
Um! ProfessorGAC Thursday #30
The reported GDP numbers are inflation-adjusted, that's why it's called "real GDP". The nominal dollar increase was 6.0% progree Thursday #37
Thanks, I Missed That ProfessorGAC Friday #44
But does "inflation-adjusted," adjust for tariff increases? Doodley Friday #55
This message was self-deleted by its author progree Friday #61
New answer: Apparently not, if AI is to be believed progree Friday #62
Thank you for the info. So, tariffs could, at least partly, be distorting the numbers. Doodley Friday #64
A major reason for the increase is actually a quirk in how the GDP is calculated. Wiz Imp Thursday #33
They're messing with the numbers. n/t aggiesal Thursday #35
Yah right Lemon Lyman Thursday #38
I don't believe it at all. CaptainTruth Thursday #39
I was expecting 38%, 3800%, or 38,000,000%. So disappointing. hay rick Thursday #40
I don't Rebl2 Thursday #41
Just like voting, Spending boycotts only work if people participate. Hotler Friday #48
Instead of trafficking in conspiracy theories about how everything is "fake" (it's not) Wiz Imp Friday #50
Sure it did. Ocelot II Friday #51
I trust no numbers coming from this gang. Ritabert Friday #52
nice, cnn! way to spin "inflation was even higher than previously thought" as a positive thing. unblock Friday #54
The "personal consumption expenditures price index" is reportedly the Fed's favorite inflation gauge progree Friday #63
Do we believe this? No. WhiteTara Friday #56
I'm surprised they didn't report 38 percent Bristlecone Friday #58
Yeah sure kimbutgar Friday #59
I don't believe it. Paper profits, at best, outright lying and statistics manipulation at worst. /nt artemisia1 Friday #60
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