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In reply to the discussion: Judge blocks Trump effort to pull election funding for states that don't adjust voting forms [View all]BumRushDaShow
(165,976 posts)12. "I don't recall hearing about anything being 'thrown out'."
The Declaration had one purpose, and the Constitution had another. The wording had to be different for each document and its purpose. My reference was to The Declaration and its purpose as stated. As a gathering of like minded individuals, we agree that, should a governmental entity become oppressive or at odds with its citizens, the citizens reserve the right to change or abolish it. That still stands, and bears repeating in my opinion.
The belief that you emphasized in the Declaration about basically holding a government to account, pretty much evaporated when THEY became "the government". I.e., this part that you quoted -
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
The resultant Civil War is a testament to that.
The largest European-descended ethnic group in the U.S. was, until recently - German, although with the 2020 Census changes and the ability to do a "write-in" with details, self-reports of "English" recently overtook them (with Irish in 3rd place) - Over Half of White Population Reported Being English, German or Irish
I am not sure what your point is here. Please elucidate.
You wrote this -
It disgusts me, to be honest. Recently I have been wondering just how many German citizens were doing the same thing as their country was overrun with extremism. Just sat and expected some mystical group to rise from nowhere and save them. Or using the corrupted and rigged governmental system to try and stop the corrupted and rigged governmental system.
And I am pointing out who left there (which included 45's grandfather before WW2), and eventually came here. And I coupled that later with this -
There are generational issues that have been passed on to descendants of those whose ancestors came here escaping the oppressive societies that they fled, and that resulted in a primordial desire to be the "oppressor" (and reap the benefits that were taken from their ancestors).
You see this same phenomena with many of the Cuban immigrants who left Cuba when Castro came into power. The number one offender at the moment is "Little Marco".
And as to this -
I am reminded of a great passage from the collection called 'Different Seasons' by Stephen King. The story titled: 'Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption'.
"There are really only two types of men in the world when it comes to bad trouble," Andy said, cupping a match between his hands and lighting a cigarette. "Suppose there was a house full of rare paintings and sculptures and fine old antiques, Red? And suppose the guy who owned the house heard that there was a monster of a hurricane headed right at it. One of those two kinds of men just hopes for the best. The hurricane will change course, he says to himself. No right-thinking hurricane would ever dare wipe out all these Rembrandts, my two Degas horses, my Jackons Pollocks and my Paul Klees. Furthermore, God wouldn't allow it. And if worst comes to worst, they're insured. That's one sort of man. The other sort just assumes that hurricane is going to tear right through the middle of his house. If the weather bureau says the hurricane just changed course, this guy assumes it'll change back in order to put his house on ground zero again. This second type of guy knows there's no harm in hoping for the best as long as you're prepared for the worst."
We need more of the second guy. (Which, if you had ever lived through a hurricane, you'd understand why the second guy is the smart one.) Although, that may be too little too late now.
"There are really only two types of men in the world when it comes to bad trouble," Andy said, cupping a match between his hands and lighting a cigarette. "Suppose there was a house full of rare paintings and sculptures and fine old antiques, Red? And suppose the guy who owned the house heard that there was a monster of a hurricane headed right at it. One of those two kinds of men just hopes for the best. The hurricane will change course, he says to himself. No right-thinking hurricane would ever dare wipe out all these Rembrandts, my two Degas horses, my Jackons Pollocks and my Paul Klees. Furthermore, God wouldn't allow it. And if worst comes to worst, they're insured. That's one sort of man. The other sort just assumes that hurricane is going to tear right through the middle of his house. If the weather bureau says the hurricane just changed course, this guy assumes it'll change back in order to put his house on ground zero again. This second type of guy knows there's no harm in hoping for the best as long as you're prepared for the worst."
We need more of the second guy. (Which, if you had ever lived through a hurricane, you'd understand why the second guy is the smart one.) Although, that may be too little too late now.
I haven't read any recent Steven King in a LONG time. And agree with your analogy and yes, I have been through lots of remnants of hurricanes and did in fact have one blow right overhead back in 1989 when my family was vacationing in Acapulco. It was a Cat 1 - Cosme. Literally flooded out the people on the other side of the "famous" ridge that surrounds the Bay, our hotel lost power but we were fine (that hotel was really anchored into the rocky outcroppings along the Bay's beach). It came through at night with a lot of rain and then it got quiet. I woke up when the winds and rain stopped, stepped out on the balcony, looked up, and saw the stars (meaning the eye was overhead). Probably an hour later, all hell broke loose!
Unfortunately, Acapulco got hit with a Cat 5 - Hurricane Otis in 2023, that tore up many of the hotels, and most of the piers and homes all around the city.
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