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Bluetus

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24. What you are citing is only an opinion by the copyright office and that is not binding on anything.
Sat Jan 17, 2026, 09:08 PM
Jan 17

The case law is limited. I agree that the case law, so far, addresses only the case of 100% generation from AI. That isn't what most people do with Suno. Most people supply some lyrics or some musical lines. And they might record the work with live musicians, and certainly perform it live. The 100% AI generation case is pretty much irrelevant.

The stuff that comes out of the AI engine is not commercial grade -- not by a long shot. Suno will provide stems. Some people will then take these stems and combine with other AI sources to add other layers to the mix. And even if the stems are untouched, there is plenty of human artistry in the mixing and mastering process. None of this is addressed in case law yet, AFAIK.

The case law, if I understand it correctly, only applies to files written entirely from AI without any modification. Thus, if you simply apply a little compression or verb and then write the file yourself, then you are clear of the 100% rule. That is nonsensical as a real world standard, but I believe that's where we are today legally.

As of the moment, you most certainly can claim a copyright for your work inasmuch as there was human artistry involved (lyric suggestions, musical lines, arranging, mixing, mastering), and if you pay the Suno subscription, they will release any claims for their parts of the project.

We are a long way from these questions being settled.

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Good for them!!!!! SheltieLover Jan 14 #1
I wish them well. It is fraught. Bluetus Jan 14 #2
Because those tools are trained illegally on stolen intellectual property, any use of them is unethical highplainsdem Jan 14 #3
And btw, what you wrote about AI being used at all levels of the music industry "for a long time" is wrong and highplainsdem Jan 14 #4
By "long time" I mean 5+ years Bluetus Jan 14 #10
I don't believe that AI music taking over is inevitable - that's propaganda from the AI companies. And highplainsdem Jan 15 #11
Just to be clear, my use of the AI material Bluetus Jan 15 #15
You're still likely to end up encouraging some of those people to use AI. highplainsdem Jan 15 #16
No competent lawyer files a brief written by AI Bluetus Jan 15 #17
No ethical person should be using generative AI, period, for anything, unless forced to do so by a highplainsdem Jan 17 #21
What highplainsdem said jfz9580m Jan 14 #7
Now, if only Spotify and the other streaming platforms... LudwigPastorius Jan 14 #5
Very cool. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jan 14 #6
I absolutely can't stand ai so called music. tazcat Jan 14 #8
I am a happy CAMPER and have been for years. Tikki Jan 14 #9
Jan 22, 2026 Edits jfz9580m Jan 15 #12
Why aren't they all doing this? FakeNoose Jan 15 #13
Spotify makes more money from AI-generated music. It can't be copyrighted, so they don't have to highplainsdem Jan 15 #14
Well I get that FakeNoose Jan 15 #18
Of course it can be copyrighted. Bluetus Jan 17 #19
No. That's not true, and they don't claim copyright. See this: highplainsdem Jan 17 #20
I don't think you understand copyrights. Bluetus Jan 17 #22
You're still 100% wrong, because you ignored this paragraph: highplainsdem Jan 17 #23
What you are citing is only an opinion by the copyright office and that is not binding on anything. Bluetus Jan 17 #24
You can claim a partial copyright if you did any of the work and can prove it. I doubt applying a little highplainsdem Jan 17 #25
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