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BumRushDaShow

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12. I will NEVER forget their fuck-up doing the Presidential "daily horserace" polling
Wed Feb 11, 2026, 01:03 PM
Wednesday

where it resulted in them predicting that Mitt Romney would win the 2012 election. After that, they ceased doing that particular poll.

I know I have posted a number of times in the past about that -

November 5, 2012
Romney 49%, Obama 48% in Gallup's Final Election Survey
Early voting so far breaks 49% for Obama and 48% for Romney
Gallup Editors

PRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney are within one percentage point of each other in Gallup's final pre-election survey of likely voters, with Romney holding 49% of the vote, and Obama 48%. After removing the 3% of undecided voters from the results and allocating their support proportionally to the two major candidates, Gallup's final allocated estimate of the race is 50% for Romney and 49% for Obama.



The survey was conducted as part of Gallup Daily tracking Nov. 1-4.

(snip)

https://news.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx


And the mea culpa with a final analysis of what went wrong (PDF), where their partner USA Today officially dropped them as a partner after that, and Gallup no longer does this poll -

Gallup identifies flaws in 2012 election polls


Martha T. Moore
USA TODAY
Published 2:24 p.m. E.T. June 4, 2013 | Updated 5:02 p.m. ET June 4, 2013



WASHINGTON – Pollsters at Gallup said Tuesday they have identified flawed methods that contributed to their incorrect prediction that Mitt Romney would win the 2012 presidential election, but they are still working to determine how to better identify who is likely to vote.

The survey firm undertook a far-reaching review of its operations after its surveys came up short in the election: Gallup's final pre-election estimate showed Romney with 49% support to Obama's 48%, with a margin of error of +/-2%. Most polls estimated Obama would win the popular vote by 1 percentage point. Obama won the popular vote by 3.85 points.

In pre-election polling, Gallup consistently showed Romney with a 3-percentage point lead over Obama. When Gallup switched to surveying only "likely voters," Romney's edge increased to 4 percentage points.

Gallup, with researchers from the University of Michigan, will experiment with ways to better identify likely voters in surveys during the 2013 governor's races in New Jersey and Virginia. Gallup asks seven questions in its phone surveys to determine whether people are likely to vote – a questionnaire that may rely too much on past voting and on how much "thought" voters have given to the election, Gallup Poll editor in chief Frank Newport said. Though all polling outfits showed an increase of support for Romney among likely voters vs. registered voters, Gallup's bump for Romney was the most extreme. "We really are re-evaluating that from square one," Newport said.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/04/gallup-poll-election-obama-romney/2388921/


There is too much "lying to the pollsters" (as well as "push-polling" ) and there is little hope in getting a true reading of how things stand nowadays.

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Nice business you have there UpInArms Wednesday #1
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Ding, Ding, DING! My first thought! electric_blue68 Wednesday #22
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Great minds... SheltieLover Wednesday #29
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Great minds... SheltieLover Wednesday #27
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Or maga their own idiocy shoved in their face. Cant have the snowflakes feeling bad about themselves ever, can we? Volaris Wednesday #28
Anything but reality! SheltieLover Wednesday #30
Or his wrath Hey Joe Wednesday #38
They need to grow spines. Democracy is at stake! All hands on deck! SheltieLover Wednesday #47
Yep. You nailed it. LoisB Wednesday #56
More corporate backsliding for the fat orange imbecile wolfie001 Wednesday #3
Every single corporation that bends to the will of that fucking asshole is complicit. Initech Wednesday #18
"Hear hear!" nt wolfie001 Wednesday #62
They're afraid of a billion dollar lawsuit. nt pnwmom Wednesday #25
So pathetic poli-junkie Wednesday #4
No doubt--another big company --gallop--just licked Trumps smelling boot!! riversedge Wednesday #5
A new poll says 75percent of Americans believe Gallup is galloping away from tRump lawsuits. nt yaesu Wednesday #6
Wow ... I have to say I never knew corporate America was an invertibrate species. But KPN Wednesday #7
Equating corporations and real persons is shaping up to be the gravest error in history Ponietz Wednesday #13
And i for one, would like the next democratic administration Volaris Wednesday #31
Yes! SheltieLover Wednesday #48
We don't need their worthless polls anyway. We're living it. Ritabert Wednesday #8
Ah yes dweller Wednesday #9
Orange Julius Caesar strikes again. generalbetrayus Wednesday #10
Another pillar of democracy undermined dickthegrouch Wednesday #11
I will NEVER forget their fuck-up doing the Presidential "daily horserace" polling BumRushDaShow Wednesday #12
No tears. hay rick Wednesday #14
see- buttery males. mopinko Wednesday #21
He broke the f*cking polls. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #15
... SheltieLover Wednesday #49
Well, they certainly aren't the only polling company PatSeg Wednesday #16
I would never answer these polls anyway mdbl Wednesday #17
In a poll, Gallup was voted as the second biggest liar after Trump and his cohorts. twodogsbarking Wednesday #19
Oh, it's not the result of Chump's childish tirades and threats of lawsuits? FakeNoose Wednesday #20
They must ascribe to the Trump philosophy that "if we stop testing (for COVID), we'd have fewer cases". LudwigPastorius Wednesday #24
I frequently say that The Dotard is the weakest person on earth. I may have to amend that. RockRaven Wednesday #26
cowards Kid Berwyn Wednesday #32
They know their models don't capture the true rating blood bath. pat_k Wednesday #33
Because the ever-growing gap between poll results and election results Bluetus Wednesday #34
IMO Gallup has been leaning Republican for decades Zorro Wednesday #36
And they're caging their move in blah blah blah corporate slimespeak. NBachers Wednesday #37
They gave up because... regnaD kciN Wednesday #39
Gallup wants to focus on its "thought leadership"? Easterncedar Wednesday #41
Somebody else will do it. legallyblondeNYC Wednesday #42
At 88, it's just to difficult to twist yourself into a pretzel anymore trying reach that sweet spot. ToxMarz Wednesday #43
Another org will fill the vaccum SheltieLover Wednesday #50
Gallup's own approval rating tanks 100% DaBronx Wednesday #51
What utter bullshit! rzemanfl Wednesday #52
Does anyone pay attention to Gallup polls anymore? patphil Wednesday #53
Wow. Trump is shitting himself that hard, huh? Aristus Wednesday #54
I'm 100% sure they will start up again sdfernando Wednesday #55
Pretty Rebl2 Wednesday #57
This is the crown jewel of polling. A thing unto itself. unblock Wednesday #58
Somehow this reminds me of WaPo deciding not to endorse anyone for president femmedem Wednesday #59
So Presidential approval is no longer an... snot Wednesday #60
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James Carville told them to "fuck themselves" BigmanPigman Wednesday #63
I'm beyond sick of this narcissistic old man. Beacool Wednesday #64
Likely story. I'm very disappointed in Gallup. ancianita Thursday #65
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