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ancianita

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21. Nothing about what you see is pretty because you want to condemn how Christianity is by its worst instead of
Tue Feb 24, 2026, 01:04 PM
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by its best. By that slip of illogic you can judge any race or nation by its worst. That's not how America sees race or gender or religion.

Spiritual humans use religion to become better humans. Fundamentalists use religion to pretend they're better than other humans.

Human hate has been around a lot longer than religion. At times we might fall prey to hate, but religion didn't cause hate -- hate wedged its voice into religion. Even the devil can quote Scripture.

The Right has turned a movement based on compassion and love into a mean, self-worshiping tax-free clique. The intolerance of right-wing christianity and christian nationalism is what's driving young people away from religion. It's not because youth are controlled by Satan -- but fundamentalists might be.

Fundamentalists got a 1st Amendment right to twist Bible Scripture to their liking in support of their hate.
Jesus Christians have a 1st Amendment right to call them out on that and take the Bible back from these hate-driven hypocrites.

Remember: if your church isn't telling you to love your enemies, but keeps telling you who your enemies are,
you're not really in a church -- and you're certainly not in Jesus's two thousand year old church.

As for this:

historically, "a cruel and oppressive government" has often been the result of Christianity, not the thing it seeks to resist.
, prove it with examples. Right now, 10 to 17 nations are frequently identified by organizations like the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) as “Countries of Particular Concern” (CPCs) due to severe religious freedom violations and oppressive, often authoritarian, governance. Common examples include Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, China, Eritrea, Burma, Sudan, and Turkmenistan.
None of those countries are Christian countries.

Whereas... Christians are the majority population in approximately 120 countries and territories as of 2020.
Democratic status:
A significant portion of these Christian-majority nations are classified as democratic, including many in Europe, the Americas, and Sub-Saharan Africa.
Official Christian States: Several nations with democratic governments also maintain official state religions, often Christianity. These include Armenia, Costa Rica, Denmark, England, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, Norway, Samoa, and Zambia.



Get a few things straight about Christianity. Read something.

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What has Trump given up for Lent? bucolic_frolic Tuesday #1
Kinda late............... Lovie777 Tuesday #2
These are the Social Justice Xtians. maxsolomon Tuesday #29
Come on, my denomination and leadership have been on the front lines of this obamanut2012 Tuesday #30
Oh for goodness sakes! In NYC there's... electric_blue68 Tuesday #34
Finally...these people begin to wake up. travelingthrulife Tuesday #3
I doubt that these are MAGA pseudo-Christians William Seger Tuesday #4
I grew up Catholic, in and out for many years. hoosierspud Tuesday #8
I know there are scads of "good christians" slightlv Tuesday #35
If you voted for Trump at any time Miguelito Loveless Tuesday #5
Cannot access the letter AverageOldGuy Tuesday #6
That was the link provided in the USA Today Article BumRushDaShow Tuesday #12
I'm posting the web archive version. Hope it's the letter you're referring to. ancianita Tuesday #17
Any single Trump vote is a crisis of morality... EarthFirst Tuesday #7
Where were these so called Christian leaders Old Crank Tuesday #9
Well, that's a pretzel twist of logic Farmer-Rick Tuesday #10
Not if you actually read the letter. It says just the opposite of your own "logic." ancianita Tuesday #18
Yeah, they write that Farmer-Rick Tuesday #19
So what. You didn't even believe what they put in writing; so how can I believe that "the Southern Baptists I know" ancianita Tuesday #22
You got that right, Farmer-Rick. A LOT of churches recoil at anything pushed by social justice Christians. SunSeeker Tuesday #24
The letter you cite states it is to "advance God's reign." SunSeeker Tuesday #23
God, if you believe He exists, created all things visible and invisible. Thus the sciences, of human ancianita Tuesday #27
Sojourners was founded by Rev. Jim Wallis The Blue Flower Tuesday #11
Have they studied what Christians have done in the real world throughout history? Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #13
Nothing about what you see is pretty because you want to condemn how Christianity is by its worst instead of ancianita Tuesday #21
Organized ****** created this monster by turning their backs or condoning him. usonian Tuesday #14
These are progressive churches OnionPatch Tuesday #15
Exactly. Sojourners, is a Christian social justice organization. They do not represent most US Christians. SunSeeker Tuesday #25
Since they mentioned Lent, methinks the signers are more Wednesdays Tuesday #16
Awh, they WOKE up... a little late and a dollar short... Justice matters. Tuesday #20
Sojourners, who put out this letter, were already "woke." SunSeeker Tuesday #26
Do they believe in the "King David" fairy tale? n/t Justice matters. Tuesday #28
Dunno. Ask them. nt SunSeeker Tuesday #33
Obviously not right-wing Christians Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday #31
I'm guessing these aren't the Evangelical-Pentacostal-Charismatic-Spirit-filled, Bible-believing, etc, etc, etc, type of Aristus Tuesday #32
Oh my! Delmette2.0 Tuesday #36
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