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28. yep

Mon Mar 16, 2026, 09:55 PM

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This is looking like it will be like almost all major aviation accidents. Several breakdowns in sequence adding up to a tragedy, if any step in the chain had been broken, the accident wouldn't have happened. The military accidents sometimes have a shorter chain of failures because they have to operate closer to the margins, but there are almost always failures stacked upon failures that cause these things.

I'm done speculating on this, I was wrong. The story I told about my deployment on a KC-10 clearly didn't apply to KC-135s. My observations from a -10 deployment clearly didn't apply to -135s, but my inexperience in the tanker world as anything other than an observer stopped me from seeing that.

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