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BumRushDaShow

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7. "Trouble" like what happened around the country in the 1800s with the "Know Nothings"
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:30 AM
Apr 14

This stuff goes ALL the way back. Biden managed to be the first Catholic President to SURVIVE office. That was a deep concern when he ran and won.

It goes back to the 1840s with a large immigrant wave of Irish Catholics here -

The Philadelphia Bible Riots




Mobs don’t think, as the adage goes, but they have often substituted for thinking by playing a leading role in fomenting political disagreements and deciding political questions.

Mobs fill vacuums. They arise and pose a threat in multiple circumstances: when government is weak or ineffective; where government actively participates in actions that a large proportion of the population perceives to be unjust; and when mobs and governments join forces to assault an out-of-favor group. American history is replete with examples of each.

In May and July 1844, the streets of Philadelphia were witness to combinations of these circumstances to deadly effect. In The Fires of Philadelphia: Citizen-Soldiers, Nativists, and the 1844 Riots Over the Soul of a Nation, George Mason University history professor Zachary M. Schrag offers a meticulously detailed blow-by-blow account of how a dispute ostensibly over Bibles in public schools inspired deadly rage.

Although the tinder that sparked the so-called Bible Riots was—as is so often the case—alleged concern about “the children,” the debate regarding which Bible kids should read in school was actually a proxy for a more insidious divide in which “nativists” strove to deprive new Catholic immigrants of the full rights of citizenship.

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This ain't nothing new.

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So, now they want a theocracy? UpInArms Apr 14 #1
That's absolutely what the Christian Nationalists that promote Prj 2025 want pat_k Apr 14 #28
And yet the WH is telling the Pope to stick his business ................ Lovie777 Apr 14 #2
Democratic presidents have had respectful disagreement with the Catholic church exboyfil Apr 14 #3
It's "Democratic", not "Democrat" AZ8theist Apr 14 #9
Noted and changed exboyfil Apr 14 #16
It means he wants to have it both ways ... like always FakeNoose Apr 14 #17
These zealots want to cram their extreme religion down everyone's throats! nwduke Apr 14 #4
They want us down on our knees... lastlib Apr 14 #11
"Trying to reproduce and retrofit what your ancestors fled, and vomit it forth in THIS country, will lead to trouble." OldBaldy1701E Apr 14 #5
"Trouble" like what happened around the country in the 1800s with the "Know Nothings" BumRushDaShow Apr 14 #7
When I was growing up in Erie, PA law required wnylib Apr 14 #19
Yes - it took that SCOTUS ruling in the '60s to reaffirm the Constitution BumRushDaShow Apr 14 #22
Besides the "extra books" (Apochrypha) in the Catholic Bible, wnylib Apr 14 #24
i have a separate book with the Apocrypha BumRushDaShow Apr 14 #25
There are several Jews in Erie. My widower grandfather wnylib Apr 14 #26
Who knew the Constitution was just meant as suggestions. Buddyzbuddy Apr 14 #6
Kevin Philips predicted this in his "American Theocracy" (2006) dedl67 Apr 14 #8
He has written EuterpeThelo Apr 14 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Apr 14 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Apr 14 #13
its writen in the constitution morans. AllaN01Bear Apr 14 #14
If There Wasn't A Pastafarianism On That Committee modrepub Apr 14 #15
They can have their union of church and state ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Apr 15 #35
"The words separation of church and state boonecreek Apr 14 #18
100% project 2025 Nigrum Cattus Apr 14 #20
Texas, where religious liberty means voucher money for private Christian schools but not Islamic schools ChicagoTeamster Apr 14 #21
Who cares what Trump Thinks eringer Apr 14 #23
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE is the cornerstone of RELIGIOUS LIBERTY Martin Eden Apr 14 #27
Every law they pass that imposes the beliefs of one religion on those who do not share the beliefs... pat_k Apr 14 #29
"And that includes laws banning abortion." Martin Eden Apr 14 #31
Since about 300 AD, when Constantine corrupted the faith... pat_k Apr 14 #32
I appreciate your historical knowledge and analysis Martin Eden Apr 14 #33
Great way to frame it all. pat_k Apr 15 #34
The connotations to the historical usage of "establishment" dickthegrouch Apr 14 #30
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