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45. MaddowBlog-Vance escalates White House offensive against Pope Leo
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:45 PM
Apr 15

If the White House sees a political upside to its increasingly outlandish papal rebukes, it’s mistaken.

As JD Vance presses the pope to be “careful when he talks about matters of theology” — no, seriously, that’s what he said — a simple question hands overhead:

What exactly is the White House’s strategy here? Do Trump and Vance think the pope will be bullied into silence?
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Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-15T12:59:00.596Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/vance-trump-pope-catholic-church

Not to be outdone, his vice president — the first Catholic Republican to ever hold the office — has joined the rhetorical offensive.

On Monday night, JD Vance appeared on Fox News and insisted that “it would be best for the Vatican to stick to matters of morality … and let the president of the United States stick to dictating American public policy.” Putting aside the fact that the president isn’t supposed to be “dictating” anything, the Ohio Republican’s advice didn’t make a lot of sense: The pope drew Trump’s ire by speaking out on matters such as a deadly and destabilizing war in the Middle East and the plight of immigrants seeking a better life, both of which are, by any reasonable measure, “matters of morality.”

A day later, he upped the ante in an unexpected way. NBC News reported:

Vice President JD Vance said Tuesday that Pope Leo XIV should ‘be careful’ when he talks about theology, rebuking the pontiff over his criticisms of U.S. foreign policy.

Vance argued that the pope, who has said Jesus ‘is never on the side of those who once wielded the sword and today drop bombs,’ was failing to take into account conflicts such as World War II
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....Do Trump and Vance believe Leo will be intimidated into silence? Are they trying to send a signal to other religious leaders opposed to the war? Do they believe they can discredit the pontiff, who enjoys stronger public support than they do? Do the Republicans think they’ll appear “tough” by picking a fight with the Vatican? Is this all some sort of elaborate distraction campaign?

I won’t pretend to know their motivation, but if Trump and Vance see a political upside to their increasingly outlandish papal scoldings, they’re mistaken.

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Vance is a Catholic convert at that..... FarPoint Apr 15 #1
but he's probably more fervent in his certainty. cab67 Apr 15 #16
Recent converts tend to be more devout (fanatical, if you like) than long-time members Ocelot II Apr 15 #34
CINO ananda Apr 15 #35
one suspects the pope woulda sold out that arena in athens.... nt msongs Apr 15 #2
Is Vance actually pontificating to the Pontiff? alwaysinasnit Apr 15 #3
I saw this on the chryon on Morning Joe and actually laughed. underpants Apr 15 #9
I don't believe in an afterlife agingdem Apr 15 #37
Maybe Earth is the all-purpose afterlife. Heaven for some and Hell for others. Norrrm Apr 15 #39
pretty sure Chicago Pope has been Catholicing a lot longer than Jaydee eShirl Apr 15 #4
Vance is a fucking moron, just like his boss. AZ8theist Apr 15 #5
"Be careful or else"? no_hypocrisy Apr 15 #6
JD Vance has been Catholic just as long as a class of second graders who just took their First Communion. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 15 #7
Yes, BUT he's written a book about it 👀😳🙄 underpants Apr 15 #10
"... anchored in the truth"??? Like VTderry Apr 15 #44
"Somalians are eating people's pets" Vance. oasis Apr 15 #46
The quote AND his later admission that it was a lie VTderry Apr 17 #50
If God is on our side, She will stop the next war Walleye Apr 15 #8
Yes! niyad Apr 15 #14
The guy who can't decide on a f*cking name for himself Buddyzbuddy Apr 15 #11
The wronger they are, the downer they double. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 15 #19
Ex-communicate the Heretic! Chasstev365 Apr 15 #12
I was Rebl2 Apr 15 #26
Quiet, punk. orangecrush Apr 15 #13
Poor JD. Finally found the religion of his dreams, wrote a book all about it tanyev Apr 15 #15
Yeah, leave that to the experts ! nt eppur_se_muova Apr 15 #17
I'm still trying to get over the headline... llmart Apr 15 #18
World War 2? This cretin is comparing Iran to WW2? Grasping at straws much? AZLD4Candidate Apr 15 #20
Um, um, um.... NNadir Apr 15 #21
We didn't attack the Nazis you idiot! Now we're the Nazis. JohnnyRingo Apr 15 #22
Catholic-splaining the Pope? mcar Apr 15 #23
Hey JD, if you don't like it, quit your job and find your own religion!!! LeftInTX Apr 15 #24
There's a misconception about "Papal infallibility" FakeNoose Apr 15 #25
This religious BS is getting on my last nerve. ☮ walkingman Apr 15 #27
Thought this was the onion SSJVegeta Apr 15 #28
Quiet, Maybelline SheltieLover Apr 15 #29
;-{) PREACHING TO THE CHOIR Goonch Apr 15 #30
NEXT: Trump Announces U.S. Military's Capture of "Disgraceful" Pope dalton99a Apr 15 #31
I don't think its smart to be telling the Pope what to do Bayard Apr 15 #32
Higher than Trump? Norrrm Apr 15 #40
I'm confused. hamsterjill Apr 15 #33
I'm going to dispute the "Vance, who is Catholic" part. Vance's true religion is... JHB Apr 15 #36
The Pope should just excommunicte his fat ass. BigDemVoter Apr 15 #38
Vance is an idiot. jcboon Apr 15 #41
Got hilf uns. maxsolomon Apr 15 #42
Careful who you piss off there...Remember, no one expects the Spanish Inquisition Scalded Nun Apr 15 #43
MaddowBlog-Vance escalates White House offensive against Pope Leo LetMyPeopleVote Apr 15 #45
What about your boss, America's Hitler, according to you? Sowhat13 Apr 15 #47
JD should be careful when couching his comments about the pontiff, lest he be truthisfreedom Apr 15 #48
Rule of thumb is not to listen to opinions on theology from PufPuf23 Apr 15 #49
Vance Mz Pip Apr 17 #51
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