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paleotn

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21. Not enough assets in theater for one. Not enough assets period given even reduced strait traffic.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 12:55 PM
Apr 25

DDGs aren't designed for escort duty. Gee, wouldn't it be nice to have some frigates right about now? But alas, we don't. And you want to risk a hundred million dollar tanker and it's cargo on 5" accuracy? Oh, hell no. It proved spotty in the Red Sea, thus the reliance on missile interdiction and DDGs running dangerously low on missiles. And the drones just kept coming. Couple that with drone swarms Iran is capable of and I'm sure you see the problem.

Air interdiction is also tricky. You've got to be in the right places at the right times and the damn things are tough to pick up long range. So vectoring air assets becomes a problem. Want to risk a tanker or two on "where they hell did those come from?!" vectoring? And those air assets are also going to take fire. You think the Iranians are just going to sit and watch the show? Not likely.

As far as electronic drone countermeasures, do you really think the US Navy absorbed the lessons from Ukraine by now? Not the Navy I once served in. It usually takes getting smacked in the head for the current war and its doctrines to sink in, get trained on, and become proficient at.

And mine clearing isn't as straightforward as you think. Particularly under fire. Either with surface or air assets. Particularly since it's not a glamorous occupation and training in real world situations may be quite thin. That's usually the case for training that's not enjoyable. And assets are limited. Lets not forget that.

Seems your whole premise involves turning the straight itself into a hot war zone. That's really not going to work. And what happens when we try to transfer "paper" understanding to the real world. And why any commercial ship owner with any sense isn't going to go for such.

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The policeman of the world gab13by13 Apr 25 #1
We've been the "police" for quite sometime, keeping pirates in check. mymomwasright Apr 25 #6
We are now the pirates. travelingthrulife Apr 25 #22
I don't know a lot about this, what good would a naval escort do? Srkdqltr Apr 25 #2
They can certainly shoot down some missiles & drones EX500rider Apr 25 #15
update Whip-poor-will Apr 25 #3
Thanks a lot Donny your pointless and un-winnable war to distract from Epstein has really fucked things up. Botany Apr 25 #4
It worked. I even read one left person write something like, we do have to forget about the files for now C Moon Apr 25 #23
Do not pay attention to the fact that Trump. Botany Apr 25 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Apr 25 #5
Your belly button needs an escort? Pics? twodogsbarking Apr 25 #7
I don't know whether the oil tankers need escorts or not, but I do know that this administration's priorities jls4561 Apr 25 #8
Escorts won't work. They're just additional targets. paleotn Apr 25 #9
No, the current marked channel in the middle is narrow & close to Iran EX500rider Apr 25 #16
Not enough assets in theater for one. Not enough assets period given even reduced strait traffic. paleotn Apr 25 #21
Thanks. Knowledge is good. Botany Apr 25 #30
Just my 2 cents. In my mind, it's all about risk. paleotn Apr 25 #33
Melania needs to be sent there . . . SarcasticSatyr Apr 25 #10
In unrelated news, the Trump Administration pushes to end home-heating assistance for the poor. Midnight Writer Apr 25 #11
They should ask the insurance companies what they would require to insure the vessels ToxMarz Apr 25 #12
No Problem. Israel will be glad to help. They can buy new naval vessels and send them down the Suez ChicagoTeamster Apr 25 #13
Don't forget the 15 mini subs sitting quietly on the bottom Submariner Apr 25 #14
Boy, Trump really wants a cut of that action. ananda Apr 25 #17
This whole closing of the strait was such an unnecessary distraction from the Epstein files kimbutgar Apr 25 #18
That's a lot of extra fuel we don't have. rickford66 Apr 25 #19
How nice that Chevron decides what the military should do . Now we know who they protect. Autumn Apr 25 #20
The Navy has very few ship's suitable as escorts pfitz59 Apr 25 #24
They can't even provide enough food for the crews. FoxNewsSucks Apr 25 #27
It has always amazed me popsdenver Apr 25 #25
Yes, for 400 years bucolic_frolic Apr 25 #26
Let them pay for it then. FoxNewsSucks Apr 25 #28
With all this destruction of Iran's military Trump/Hegseth brag about, WHY are they letting Iranian forces board and cap Norrrm Apr 25 #29
We didn't need this under any democratic president RainCaster Apr 25 #32
Will the insurance companies cover the vessels if they need a naval escort? I wonder. If they won't, then the strait Fil1957 Apr 25 #34
If you need an armed escort, it ain't 'open." Iggo Apr 25 #35
With an oil tanker carrying millions of dollars of crude oil . . . Aussie105 Apr 26 #36
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