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Ilikepurple

(819 posts)
7. I'm not sure who here is defending property destruction as a form of political speech
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 07:21 PM
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Also, I’m not sure what the trap is here? Did this sort of legislation pass in Utah because unwary Utah democrats fell into the trap. I believe that fighting the narrative that criminal activity during civil protest raises misdemeanors to felonies that are best described as civil terrorism requires direct confrontation with that narrative itself.
I’m not sure how agreeing that breaking existing laws is a crime will ensure that this already moving policy shift towards classifying misdemeanors as civil terrorism felonies will be stopped in its tracks. Many democratic representatives have already made this point clear regarding the destruction of property. The disagreement lies in how serious one considers the crimes within the context of protest. In the confines of protest, should they be elevated, should they be minimized, or should they be treated as they would be outside those confines? Advocates for these enhancements already refer to protest crimes as civil terrorism. The advocates of this policy only need acceptance of this shift in characterization to succeed in many jurisdictions regardless of mainstream Democrats’ proclamations of non support.

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This was always the plan, and why they constantly accused the Obama and Biden families with bogus smears. mahina Sunday #1
We can reject right-wing traps like this without defending vandalism or property destruction. QueerDuck Sunday #2
I'm not sure who here is defending property destruction as a form of political speech Ilikepurple Sunday #7
You make an excellent point about the legal debate, but the trap I'm talking about is purely electoral. QueerDuck Yesterday #12
PREACH!!!!!!! When wil we LEARN this?? This is going to be an issue in the GA Gov race. Callie1979 Yesterday #13
Yes, I agree that this sort of clarity has great political value. Ilikepurple 16 hrs ago #17
When we have mass unemployment unrest, they will want 'kill on sight' power SamuelTheThird Sunday #3
well we know where the owners live too dave99 Sunday #5
These Laws have existed for DECADES already in EVERY locality ! Vandalism - done disorderly conduct - done dave99 Sunday #4
HATE headlines like this. Just write "Manhattan Institute!" Grins Sunday #6
OR............................................ AZ8theist Yesterday #11
I'm wondering if they would apply this to Jan. 6th tourists? n/t aggiesal Sunday #8
Of course not. warmfeet Sunday #9
NOTHING applies to them. Callie1979 Yesterday #14
A front-line supporter of Trump's efforts to establish a fascist state J_William_Ryan Sunday #10
""This is aimed at trying to silence public demonstrations, public assemblies..." OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #15
I've seen a lot of CIVIL TERRORISM caught on video Martin Eden 22 hrs ago #16
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