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In reply to the discussion: Have you heard of Velvet Sundown? It's a band that's supposedly generated through AI [View all]highplainsdem
(57,916 posts)11. I ran across Rick Beato's video about this last night - I'll post that at the end of this reply - and had
planned to post about "Velvet Sundown" this morning, but logged in to see you already had. Beato is also sure it's AI, btw, and he isn't happy about whoever is behind this AI slop getting paid off the work of other people whose music was stolen to train the AI.
What do you think of this music?
It's homogenized crap. AI slop created only through the theft of all the copyrighted music the AI model used could be trained on.
Does it bother you that it's created through artificial intelligence, or do you enjoy it despite that?
If it DOESN'T bother you that generative AI was trained via the theft of the world's intellectual property, then you're giving a thumbs up to the theft and are trying for an ethics-free and conscience-free discussion of something that exists only because of that theft.
LudwigPastorius (reply 6) isn't the only person who suspects Spotify created this and is doing so to trick customers and fill up playlists with music they own and can use without paying royalties. (Spotify has already been filling up playlists with mediocre music that's apparently work for hire that they had created so they wouldn't have to pay royalties. I posted about Rick Beato's video on that a year or two ago.)
So this is a two-pronged attack on real music by real artists - first by using illegally trained AI, and then by diverting their users' attention to fake music Spotify owns and through that stealing revenue from real artists on Spotify.
If you think that's defensible, I'd like to hear that defense.
Editing to add a short clip from the earlier Rick Beato video I referred to above:
Editing again to link to a DU thread from last December about another way Spotify harms musicians and exploits users not caring enough about who created the music:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219837180
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Have you heard of Velvet Sundown? It's a band that's supposedly generated through AI [View all]
True Dough
Jun 30
OP
OMG... "DUST ON the WIND" as opposed to Kansas' "Dust IN the Wind?" Are you kidding me?
hlthe2b
Jun 30
#1
I thought I hit the wrong button, That is nothing like the Kansas original at all. I don't like it.
debm55
Jul 1
#27
My Youtube algorithm has put a lot of 50's/60's radio-pop type woman singers in front of me. The pictures look just
NBachers
Jun 30
#2
A lot of YouTubers who are apparently never hindered by ethics are now creating AI music that can be created
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#14
Agree completely, including that it's likely Spotify did this. See reply 11.
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#13
A comment I found on Rick Beato's video about this explains how Spotify is forcing this AI slop on people:
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#21
You're welcome. I think Spotify's treatment of most artists is outrageous. And not identifying AI slop
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#24
Since we don't have a SlopBot here, would you please stop using childish insults to object to people
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#9
No, you're not. Not funny, either. AI slop generated by illegally trained AI tools might be a joke to
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#18
I ran across Rick Beato's video about this last night - I'll post that at the end of this reply - and had
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#11
See reply 21. Spotify is reportedly shoveling this slop onto people's playlists. I posted elsewhere in
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#32
The difference between AI music and human music is like the difference between a relationship
Midnight Writer
Jul 1
#26
You're definitely not missing anything. But if you use Spotify, you might discover this AI slop is
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#30
Post from someone on Bluesky who says the tech be used to analyze the tracks showed they're
highplainsdem
Jul 1
#31