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IrishBubbaLiberal

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3. More details.....
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:36 AM
Mar 22

Last edited Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:52 PM - Edit history (1)


With construction begun, Aguayo placed Captain Ramón in charge of the fort and its ninety soldiers and turned his attention to the founding of Nuestra Señora del Espíritu Santo de Zúñiga Mission, which Peña says was “close to the presidio.” The site of this effort to Christianize the Karankawan tribes, however, has not been definitely identified.

Scarcely two years into Ramón’s administration of the presidio, he proved so inept in dealing with the mission subjects that it cost him his life. When the entire Indian population became aroused over what should have been a minor incident in the house of a soldier, the captain ordered all the Indians, including women and children, imprisoned in a small hut. Official reports of the episode claim he planned to remove them a few at a time to be hanged. Some of the Indians tried to escape, and, in the melee that followed, Ramón was stabbed in the breast. He died of the wound eight days later.

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My NOTES……

I have read other historical accounts of his death, where it was attributed to
a arrow at his neck, and he yes died a few days later

That Texas historical website does indeed get it wrong sometimes on the details,
Or at least ONLY states one version, and leaves out other historical documentation

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Excellent review of a pernicious myth long overlooked al bupp Mar 22 #1
My spouse's family of New Spain, was in what became Tejas, in 1718 IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 22 #2
More details..... IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 22 #3
Muy interesante al bupp Mar 22 #5
Old story but still fun to read. Grins Mar 22 #4
Forget the Alamo! Remember the Republic of the Rio Grande! Xipe Totec Mar 22 #6
One of my favorite movies Mblaze Mar 22 #7
My favorite closing line of any movie, ever. Paladin Mar 22 #11
Here a write up on that movie IrishBubbaLiberal Mar 22 #20
Sayles's movies always have real human beings. Mblaze Mar 22 #21
Well said. I have a friend who is into the "Moorish American" thing bhikkhu Mar 22 #8
Folks, this is an easy one. We were stealing their land. ashredux Mar 22 #9
One other item you forget gay texan Mar 22 #18
Thank you for the reminder of this very important book. I read it niyad Mar 22 #10
Excellent book! Abbott hates it... lol Shipwack Mar 22 #12
Best book ever written about The Alamo is a novel. Paladin Mar 22 #13
In Ulysses S. Grant's Autobiography Zorro Mar 22 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Shipwack Mar 22 #15
Thanks for posting this. It wasn't until a few years ago that I learned that the "Mexican War" raccoon Mar 22 #16
I was born in Travis County (Austin) momta Mar 22 #17
I'm not shocked by this. Texasgal Mar 22 #19
I saw the 1960 John Wayne "Alamo" movie. Paladin Mar 23 #22
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