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MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
16. For me, there is another problem with traditional gender roles.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:32 PM
Mar 2013

What happens when they just don't match who you are? It creates a life experience where you always feel like an outsider or as if you are defective.

I am a nongendered (or third-gendered) person and traditional gender roles alienate me because they do not apply to me. (I am transgender but not the kind of "transgender" people usually think about when they hear the term. I am sometimes envious of transgender people who know they are man or woman, even when it is different from their bodies, because at least they are "something". In modern 21st century US of A, I am "none of the above". But then I do "pass" as a woman because I have a female body, so I fly under the radar unless I choose to identify myself to someone as "not woman".)

I guess many people embrace gender roles because they line up with their identities so they don't see a problem. That is not the case for me, so it is a sore spot for me.

If the whole world has expectations of you, and makes assumptions about you, because you have female parts, and your identity is not "woman", it gets really tedious and isolating.

(Not arguing, just explaining it from my eyes.)

... then they'd only make 77 cents on the dollar. Scuba Mar 2013 #1
In that case, they would get full pay. Bonobo Mar 2013 #2
that would be incorrect. In the U.S. more women than men work cali Mar 2013 #21
Actually that has more to do with child rearing Major Nikon Mar 2013 #8
You know that this is false, right? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #11
OK, I will give it a go. MadrasT Mar 2013 #3
Thank you for your honest post. Bonobo Mar 2013 #4
One of the reasons I respect my new male partner is that he went with a career he loves MadrasT Mar 2013 #6
What is frustrating isn't "women who look to men to be their meal ticket" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #13
I don't really see a big problem with gender roles Major Nikon Mar 2013 #15
For me, there is another problem with traditional gender roles. MadrasT Mar 2013 #16
The way I see it is it all goes back to discrimination Major Nikon Mar 2013 #17
That works for me. MadrasT Mar 2013 #18
I agree with all of it, too. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #20
My daughter has been schooling me lately... Bonobo Mar 2013 #19
Once upon a time, when I did make much more than my wife, it didn't cause resentment at home lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #12
I feel the same way st0rk Mar 2013 #14
You would see more women... Major Nikon Mar 2013 #5
You mean men don't choose those things because they LOVE to do them? Bonobo Mar 2013 #7
I'm not sure women have any more or less freedom Major Nikon Mar 2013 #9
...the system would get changed. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #10
I'd like to know which women aren't expected to work? BainsBane Mar 2013 #22
I can't speak for Bonobo, but I think his OP is deliberately exaggerating and caricaturing Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #23
Not exactly. Bonobo Mar 2013 #27
I have done some time as a SAHD. I think things have changed, somewhat. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #33
The blogosphere is filled with debate about the appropriate choice for moms lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #24
Yes. That is correct. Bonobo Mar 2013 #25
the choice is there BainsBane Mar 2013 #29
The only Moms that have that choice are upper middle class BainsBane Mar 2013 #28
Exceptions proving the rule. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #30
Your rule is the top 1% BainsBane Mar 2013 #31
I was very fortunate to get the opportunity to be a stay at home dad. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #32
It's great you had that opportunity BainsBane Mar 2013 #34
My response is in #25 below. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #26
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