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[Warren DeMontague]

23. I will also add that i dont consider myself a "mens rights activist", whatever that means.

I consider myself a strong proponent for equal rights for all, which includes a strong component of personal freedom and choice in all life matters, including reproductive, end of life, etc.

My point about safe haven status- and lets be honest, we all know where the lines of disagreement are- is that i understand why (self described) 2nd wavers want a controlled ideological area where certain parmeters can be met. I get that. I do think, however, its legitimate to have a space over here where many of us on the other side of some of those debates, including men, mens allies, other wave feminists, etc. can legitimately express our views without being reciprocally lectured by the folks who have already demonstrated that they will brook no dissent in their own group.


Thanks for the heads up.