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paulkienitz

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32. Solar is no fantasy.

Fri May 9, 2025, 01:37 PM

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Solar is now cheaper than fossil fuel and only getting cheaper. It doesn't need to occupy tons of land because it can and does go on land that's already in use, like rooftops and parking lots. Advanced cells have twice the power output of cheap ones, so they are far from done improving.

I have no sympathy whatever for PG&E. The whole company should be dismantled. Remember the Enron crisis? PG&E was complicit, made billions, and never faced any accountability for it. They split the company in two and declared bankruptcy for one half while pocketing those billions in the other, then successfully stuck the ratepayers with bailing out the first half. It may be the grossest misuse of bankruptcy court in history, and they set a world record in the amount they paid their lawyers to get that outcome. Come the revolution those sick fucks can share a guillotine with Peter Thiel and Marc Andreesen.

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My gf wants me to spend $40k on an electric car [View all] paulkienitz May 8 OP

I think your gf is right on! CaliforniaPeggy May 8 #1

I just bought a 12 year old hybrid (Prius) Ms. Toad May 8 #2

☝️ CentralMass May 8 #4

I'm thinking $19000 17 years ago isn't that much less than $40000 now. paulkienitz May 8 #10

It's around $28,550 in today's dollars. n/t Ms. Toad May 8 #16

Inflation calculators always underestimate paulkienitz May 8 #20

Well, my income in 2008 Ms. Toad May 8 #25

Hard to comment, not knowing your financial situation, cashflow or if you own your own place. My wife and I share a Doodley May 8 #3

Listen to her! LittleGirl May 8 #5

They told us factory orders take three months currently. paulkienitz May 8 #14

it wasn't the rechargeable batteries was it? LittleGirl May 8 #17

It was the big battery that failed for her. paulkienitz May 8 #21

That's the first I've heard LittleGirl May 8 #27

If you're getting one, this seems to be the time to do it, before the tariffs kick in. Low price for an EV, good range, NBachers May 8 #6

We felt that way driving a Prius LittleGirl May 8 #18

That model has great reviews IronLionZion May 8 #7

Not many road trips in our lives nowadays paulkienitz May 8 #11

Isnt ford running employee pricing now? Figarosmom May 8 #8

Yeah we got that offer paulkienitz May 8 #12

Consider No Money Down Lease modrepub May 8 #9

Yeah, just signed up for that forum. paulkienitz May 8 #13

If your issue is which kind of car is least odious for climate... NNadir May 8 #15

I'm in California where the grid has plenty of solar, paulkienitz May 8 #22

I'm not a fan of California's grid, solar energy, and definitely not natural gas. NNadir May 8 #23

No. paulkienitz Friday #29

You will often be driving a car powered by natural gas after exergy destruction. NNadir Friday #31

Solar is no fantasy. paulkienitz Friday #32

I'm with your best friend on this one. flvegan May 8 #19

we looked at used prices paulkienitz May 8 #24

cheaper to get a new GF. Groundhawg May 8 #26

GF, GT, what's the difference? NBachers May 8 #28

we bought it... paulkienitz Friday #30

WE BOUGHT IT... FOR TWO DAYS. paulkienitz Sunday #33