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6. So what? I think I've been very clear that the ONLY tool for addressing extreme global heating that's now here,...
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:40 PM
Dec 10

...accompanied by the gloating of antinukes, was, is, and always will be nuclear energy, and importantly nothing else. This was true "by 1980," "by 1990," "by 2000," "by 2010," and "by 2020."

Here we are at "by 2025:"

What part of this is difficult to understand?

Week beginning on November 30, 2025: 427.21 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 424.84 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 400.83 ppm
Last updated: December 10, 2025

Trends in Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

"By 2025" it proved too late for nuclear energy to do what it might have done, a fact that, to repeat, engenders some gloating by antinukes, as I've noted many times.

I joined DU 23 years and roughly 3 weeks ago. At that time the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere was 372.68 ppm. In other words, 23 years and 3 weeks ago is 54.53 ppm ago.

I'm paying attention as opposed to daydreaming and soothsaying.

I have never met a "we need solar and wind" acolyte who was ever seriously, except in crocodile tears, interested in attacking fossil fuels. They only are interested in bad mouthing or outright attacking nuclear energy. That was true "in 1980, 1990, 2000, 2010, 2020 and now in 2025."

The Germans didn't shut their coal plants. They embraced coal, albeit with some "by XXXX 100% hydrogen" bullshit. This is a disgrace in a country where they speak the same language that Ludwig Boltzmann spoke. Again, they didn't shut their coal plants, they shut their nuclear plants, thus killing people and the planet. Who's kidding whom about what the solar and wind fantasy is all about?

For the record, I read vast amounts of material. I post often here about what I read, for which I do not apologize. Frankly, don't have time for every cartoon, including the "we need solar and wind," cartoons that other people think I should read.

I was once uneducated enough to believe this kind of "renewable energy will save us" horseshit in my 20s, 30's and maybe even into my 40's, but you know what?

I'm an old man now, soon to disappear from a planet now in flames.

I look at the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere every damned week in every month of every year, and have done so for decades. The results are clear to anyone who can read with a modicum of comprehension.

I claim, if anything, I'm well read and I am not going to apologize to anyone for being for not reading their favorite cartoons.

I don't have time for cartoons.

The solar and wind industry combined produced just 18 Exajoules of energy in 2024, growing combined by 2 Exajoules since 2023 on a planet now consuming as of that year, 654 Exajoules. It did this by soaking the world economy for close to a trillion dollars. Combined, solar and wind grew slower than coal, which grew to 178 Exajoules from 175 Exajoules between 2023 and 2024, and dangerous natural gas, which grew from 145 to 148 Exajoules in the same period. They grew slightly faster than petroleum, which grew by 1 Exajoules to 193 Exajoules. (Are we saved?)

"By 2035?" Don't make me laugh because honestly, all I can do in the face of this chanting "100% by XXXX" bullshit is weep.

Save that 100% clean energy shit "by XXXX" for "I'll sue you if you doubt me" Mark Z. Jacobson. It's his speed, and not the speed of any serious person.

Have a wonderful evening and a nice day tomorrow, as well as the happiest of holiday seasons.

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