Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: A Closer Look at Students for Justice in Palestine [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)26. SJP is part of Omar Barghouti's BDS movement which calls for Israel's destruction...
All of BDS calls for Israel destruction via Right-of-Return, including SJP and other racist organizations like JVP, PSC, & the ISM.
The founder of BDS, Omar Barghouti admits his movement wants Israel ended.
I do not buy into the two state solution. It is not just pragmatically impossible, it was never a moral solution. The first issue would be the right of return, but if the refugees were to return you cannot have a two state solution like one Palestinian commentator remarked. You will have a Palestinian State next to a Palestinian State, rather than a Palestinian State next to Israel.
Omar Barghouti, Ottawa University, March 4, 2009
Mahmoud Abbas admits allowing for millions of Palestinian refugees will end Israel
Abbas Deemed It 'Illogical' for Israel to Absorb 5 Million Refugees, Palestine Papers Show
"On numbers of refugees, it is illogical to ask Israel to take 5 million, or indeed 1 million," Abbas said, according to the details of the Palestine papers. "That would mean the end of Israel."
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/abbas-deemed-it-illogical-for-israel-to-absorb-5-million-refugees-palestine-papers-show-1.338981
Longtime BDS advocates Norman Finkelstein & Noam Chomsky admit BDS wants Israel gone.
Ive earned my right to speak my mind, and Im not going to tolerate what I think is silliness, childishness, and a lot of leftist posturing.
I mean we have to be honest, and I loathe the disingenuous. They dont want Israel. They think they are being very clever; they call it their three-tier. We want the end of the occupation, the right of return, and we want equal rights for Arabs in Israel. And they think they are very clever because they know the result of implementing all three is what, what is the result?
You know and I know what the result is. Theres no Israel!
. . .
Its not an accidental and unwitting omission that BDS does not mention Israel. You know that and I know that. Its not like theyre oh we forgot to mention it. They wont mention it because they know it will split the movement. Cause theres a large segment of the movement that wants to eliminate Israel.
#t=598
And then there are boycotters of settlements who oppose BDS because they know BDS calls for the end of Israel.Peter Beinart
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/19/opinion/to-save-israel-boycott-the-settlements.html?_r=0
http://honestreporting.com/peter-beinart-i-disagree-with-the-goals-of-bds/
Bernard Avishai
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-e-u-vs-b-d-s-the-politics-of-israel-sanctions
https://www.thenation.com/article/opinionnation-forum-boycott-divestment-sanctions-bds/
Deborah Dash Moore
http://www.jta.org/2014/09/22/news-opinion/united-states/hundreds-of-academics-sign-anti-bds-petition?utm_source=Newsletter+subscribers&utm_campaign=91649a240e-JTA_Daily_Briefing_9_23_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_2dce5bc6f8-91649a240e-25322121
Michael Walzer of Third-Narrative
http://jpupdates.com/2014/12/12/anti-bds-leading-academics-call-personal-sanctions-occupationist-israelis/
But how do all these people, from BDS leaders to boycotters to rightwing Zionists know that a return of millions of refugees would destroy Israel? Because Arab leaders have been saying it for decades.In demanding the return of the Palestinian refugees the Arabs mean their return as masters, not slaves, or to put it more clearly the intention is the extermination of Israel.
- Salah al-Din, Egyptian Foreign Minister
If the refugees return to Israel Israel will cease to exist.
- Gamal Abdel Nasser
The day on which the Arab hope for the return of the refugees to Palestine is realized will be the day of Israels extermination.
- Abdallah al-Yafi, Lebanese Prime Minister
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/israel/quotes.html
It is well-known and understood that the Arabs, in demanding the return of the refugees to Palestine, mean their return as masters of the Homeland and not as slaves. With a greater clarity, they mean the liquidation of the State of Israel (Al-Misri, October 11, 1949).
To us, the refugees issue is the winning card which means the end of the Israeli state. (http://www.fateh.net/e_public/refugees.htm)
The Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront to the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders dont give a damn whether the refugees live or die. (Ralph Galloway, UNRWA, as quoted by Terence Prittie in The Palestinians: People, History, Politics, p 71)
The only person in denial about BDS' aims seems to be you.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
36 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
I think that Canary Mission is a hate site, and that you should avoid promoting it.
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#2
One may wonder why you chose to bolster your arguments with an article from a pro-Republican site.
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#6
I think you're misreading the CUNY report on the alleged SJP anti-Semitism.
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#10
Slander is considered protected speech, which makes it possible for a certain Presidential Pretender
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#12
It's a bit of a stretch to call Israel a secular state already, but that's beside the point...
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#24
I suppose that the irony of you posting in favor of the notion of free speech in one post (#9),
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#11
I would characterize her posts in favor of banning SJP as being against the notion
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#15
I don't know of any instance where SJP is calling for Israel's destruction...
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#23
SJP is part of Omar Barghouti's BDS movement which calls for Israel's destruction...
shira
Oct 2016
#26
I'm sorry - I just assumed that calling for equal rights wasn't considered racist.
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#29
It actually seems as if we lack common ground for a discussion on this subject. n/t
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#36