Israel/Palestine

aranthus

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35. The consequence of my beliefs?

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:47 PM

Oct 2016

The consequence of my beliefs is the current modern nation state system, which with all of the problems it has, has done a reasonably good job of preserving human civilization. The consequence of your beliefs is that civilization would ultimately collapse with nothing to fall back on. Humanity needs different ethnic cultures to preserve its ideological vitality among other things, and separate cultures can't survive without a state to support them. Multi-national states don't survive for very long. The Soviet Union broke apart, and Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and most other multi-national states. Care to offer a reason why?

And of course nation states are democratic. Ever heard of majority rule? What do you think that means if not that the majority gets to decide, among other things, what the national culture of the state is going to be.

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A Closer Look at Students for Justice in Palestine [View all] shira Oct 2016 OP

But but but they have justice in their name 6chars Oct 2016 #1

I think that Canary Mission is a hate site, and that you should avoid promoting it. Little Tich Oct 2016 #2

CUNY confirms SJP anti-Semitism, but declines to ban group shira Oct 2016 #3

One may wonder why you chose to bolster your arguments with an article from a pro-Republican site. Little Tich Oct 2016 #6

Can't condemn SJP racists? Here's CUNY's anti-semitism report... shira Oct 2016 #8

I think you're misreading the CUNY report on the alleged SJP anti-Semitism. Little Tich Oct 2016 #10

SJP wants to bring down the state of Israel & end it. That's antisemitic... shira Oct 2016 #19

Let me see if I get this. aranthus Oct 2016 #4

Here's some more info about the Canary Mission: Little Tich Oct 2016 #5

So you don't have an answer to my challenge. I thought as much. aranthus Oct 2016 #7

Slander is considered protected speech, which makes it possible for a certain Presidential Pretender Little Tich Oct 2016 #12

Just wrong aranthus Oct 2016 #13

I'm not really part of Team Palestine. Little Tich Oct 2016 #16

Still waiting for evidence Canary Mission is printing lies, misinformation... shira Oct 2016 #18

"....where you stand on civil rights & democracy". I call BS.... shira Oct 2016 #22

It's a bit of a stretch to call Israel a secular state already, but that's beside the point... Little Tich Oct 2016 #24

Israel is as liberal, democratic & secular as any other nation... shira Oct 2016 #25

When you actually find something wrong with Canary Mission, let us know... shira Oct 2016 #9

I suppose that the irony of you posting in favor of the notion of free speech in one post (#9), Little Tich Oct 2016 #11

Except Shira didn't post against free speech in post #3 aranthus Oct 2016 #14

I would characterize her posts in favor of banning SJP as being against the notion Little Tich Oct 2016 #15

Wrong again, you see what you want to see. I just want you to condemn SJP. shira Oct 2016 #17

I read the CUNY report on the allegations against SJP. Little Tich Oct 2016 #20

You're deflecting. SJP calls for the destruction of Israel. shira Oct 2016 #21

I don't know of any instance where SJP is calling for Israel's destruction... Little Tich Oct 2016 #23

SJP is part of Omar Barghouti's BDS movement which calls for Israel's destruction... shira Oct 2016 #26

I've read your post, and I still disagree with you. Little Tich Oct 2016 #27

What it means for you is irrelevant. aranthus Oct 2016 #28

I'm sorry - I just assumed that calling for equal rights wasn't considered racist. Little Tich Oct 2016 #29

Uri Avnery calls BS on your BDS demand of right-of-return.... shira Oct 2016 #30

We don't have any common ground on which to have a discussion. aranthus Oct 2016 #31

Let's recap the argument: Little Tich Oct 2016 #32

False recap. aranthus Oct 2016 #33

Ughh, please no... Little Tich Oct 2016 #34

The consequence of my beliefs? aranthus Oct 2016 #35

It actually seems as if we lack common ground for a discussion on this subject. n/t Little Tich Oct 2016 #36