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In reply to the discussion: Mondoweiss:New ad campaign in college papers calls out Israeli leaders’ bigotry against Palestinians [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)20. Be honest, admit UNESCO was racist. Don't excuse it due to occupation.
As to Gideon Levy, he was very clear that terror is justified.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=131390
The second kind, Palestinian terror, is criminal in its methods but justified in its cause. There is no connection between the man who committed suicide in Brussels Metro and the youth who stabs Israelis at Damascus Gate. A thousand speeches by Benjamin Netanyahu at AIPAC wont confuse decent people. Palestinian terror is the resort of those who have no choice, a tool of the weak to gain their more-than-justified goals.
Its true that this kind of terror also hurts innocent people brutally. Its means are similar too. Palestinians attacked planes when Osama Bin Laden was still a business administration student in King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, and Palestinian suicide terrorists preceded ISIS. But all this cannot cover up the difference: ISISs goals are insane, the Palestinians goals are justified.
What would you say to a Gazan youngster hesitating whether to join the resistance? Is there any point to his life and any chance for his future if he and his colleagues bow their heads submissively before their jailers? Is there anyone, in Israel or the rest of the world, who would remember their existence without the violent resistance that is tagged as terrorism? And their brothers in the West Bank violence may not have given them any real achievements, but at least it raised their issue and put it on the agenda.
Lets be honest about it: Had the Palestinians not hijacked airplanes in the early '70s, would anyone in the world know about their disaster? Be interested in their fate? True, nothing has been solved since then, but this is despite their desperate resort to terror, not because of it.
Israel has given the Palestinians and the Arab world a fateful lesson it understands only force. Only force got Israel to return Sinai, only force led it to the Oslo talks, only by force will the Palestinian problem be solved. This force, in the case of people who have no army or air force, is terror.
The first 20 years of occupation, during which there was little terror, passed pleasantly, so it occurred to nobody to give the Palestinians even a few of their rights. Terror put these rights onto the agenda. Because of the first intifada, they reached Oslo.
The second intifada, which was more savage, brought disaster on them they lost some of the worlds sympathy and some of the sympathy toward them in Israel. But terror was and remained their only weapon. They have no other. Even if they destroy their entire shabby weapons arsenal and swear to walk in the light of Mahatma Gandhi, they have no chance of getting what is theirs without terror.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.710588
Its true that this kind of terror also hurts innocent people brutally. Its means are similar too. Palestinians attacked planes when Osama Bin Laden was still a business administration student in King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, and Palestinian suicide terrorists preceded ISIS. But all this cannot cover up the difference: ISISs goals are insane, the Palestinians goals are justified.
What would you say to a Gazan youngster hesitating whether to join the resistance? Is there any point to his life and any chance for his future if he and his colleagues bow their heads submissively before their jailers? Is there anyone, in Israel or the rest of the world, who would remember their existence without the violent resistance that is tagged as terrorism? And their brothers in the West Bank violence may not have given them any real achievements, but at least it raised their issue and put it on the agenda.
Lets be honest about it: Had the Palestinians not hijacked airplanes in the early '70s, would anyone in the world know about their disaster? Be interested in their fate? True, nothing has been solved since then, but this is despite their desperate resort to terror, not because of it.
Israel has given the Palestinians and the Arab world a fateful lesson it understands only force. Only force got Israel to return Sinai, only force led it to the Oslo talks, only by force will the Palestinian problem be solved. This force, in the case of people who have no army or air force, is terror.
The first 20 years of occupation, during which there was little terror, passed pleasantly, so it occurred to nobody to give the Palestinians even a few of their rights. Terror put these rights onto the agenda. Because of the first intifada, they reached Oslo.
The second intifada, which was more savage, brought disaster on them they lost some of the worlds sympathy and some of the sympathy toward them in Israel. But terror was and remained their only weapon. They have no other. Even if they destroy their entire shabby weapons arsenal and swear to walk in the light of Mahatma Gandhi, they have no chance of getting what is theirs without terror.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.710588
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Mondoweiss:New ad campaign in college papers calls out Israeli leaders’ bigotry against Palestinians [View all]
Little Tich
Oct 2016
OP
Out of fairness, they should also include examples of Palestinian leaders' bigotry against Israelis
oberliner
Oct 2016
#1
Perhaps we should judge these people by their actions rather than their words...
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#14
Please. Most of those quotes refer to terrorists, not Arabs or Pal'ns in general.
shira
Oct 2016
#18
when people blow themselves up and hijack planes (still no apologies), its called ANIMAL BEHAVIOR
ericson00
Oct 2016
#2
Aha, if it's from the "oppressed" like Hamas, it can't be racist antipathy vs. Jews...
shira
Oct 2016
#21
This resolution attacks Jewish historical claims to the Mount, as Fatah acknowledges....
shira
Oct 2016
#29
Are you being deliberately disingenuous? Have you seen the Fatah/PA reaction to UNESCO?
shira
Oct 2016
#28
I'm not sure if calling Arabs "predators" instead of "wild beasts" is much better.
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#16
It's most probable that the remains of the Temples are right under the Dome of the Rock
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#31
It may surprise you, but some people, including me have higher evidentiary standards than you.
Little Tich
Oct 2016
#33