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aranthus

(3,386 posts)
22. Here's the problem.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 03:14 PM
Oct 2016

Let's assume that the Palestinians have a case to make (I believe that they actually do to some extent, although they are more in the wrong than the Israelis). That reasonable case would be something along the lines of, "We want a state of our own, and we are willing to agree that the Jews can have a state of their own as well." Except that isn't what the Palestinians have always argued. Instead, they have always claimed that the Jews have no right to a state of their own, and that the Palestinians are entitled to everything. This latest UNESCO resolution is of a piece with that. Instead of merely complaining about the supposed wrongs of the Israelis, the Palestinians used it as a vehicle for furthering their true agenda: denying Jewish connection and right to a state in Israel. It's not a case of bias. It's not a case of different causation from justification. Here they are the same, just as they have been for decades. The cause is Palestinian hostility to a Jewish state, and the justification (such as it is) is that same hostility. The resolution is a weapon in the Palestinian war against the rights of the Jewish people and the existence of Israel.

Out of fairness, they should also include examples of Palestinian leaders' bigotry against Israelis oberliner Oct 2016 #1
I'm perfectly OK with such a comparison. Little Tich Oct 2016 #3
There are good and bad Israeli leaders oberliner Oct 2016 #4
Your attempt to make Arab-hating racists look good are almost humorous. Little Tich Oct 2016 #6
Huh? oberliner Oct 2016 #12
Perhaps we should judge these people by their actions rather than their words... Little Tich Oct 2016 #14
Most of those quotes are about terrorists who murder Jews, right? shira Oct 2016 #8
Nope - let's take a closer look at these nice statements in context: Little Tich Oct 2016 #13
Please. Most of those quotes refer to terrorists, not Arabs or Pal'ns in general. shira Oct 2016 #18
when people blow themselves up and hijack planes (still no apologies), its called ANIMAL BEHAVIOR ericson00 Oct 2016 #2
Yes, it's awful to call Jew murdering terrorists bad names. shira Oct 2016 #7
I believe that there's no such thing as justified racism. n/t Little Tich Oct 2016 #15
Really? The UNESCO vote wasn't justified racism in your view? shira Oct 2016 #17
Uhrghh. Caused by doesn't necessarily mean morally justified by... Little Tich Oct 2016 #19
Be honest, admit UNESCO was racist. Don't excuse it due to occupation. shira Oct 2016 #20
Aha, if it's from the "oppressed" like Hamas, it can't be racist antipathy vs. Jews... shira Oct 2016 #21
You're arguing with yourself. Little Tich Oct 2016 #25
This resolution attacks Jewish historical claims to the Mount, as Fatah acknowledges.... shira Oct 2016 #29
Here's the problem. aranthus Oct 2016 #22
Good point. n/t shira Oct 2016 #23
Perhaps you should read the resolution. Little Tich Oct 2016 #26
Are you being deliberately disingenuous? Have you seen the Fatah/PA reaction to UNESCO? shira Oct 2016 #28
the first quote is a bad translation from hebrew Mosby Oct 2016 #5
Obviously, Israel should just allow Al-Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood & ISIS... shira Oct 2016 #9
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Good point. n/t shira Oct 2016 #11
I'm not sure if calling Arabs "predators" instead of "wild beasts" is much better. Little Tich Oct 2016 #16
The writer of this OP Annie Robbins denied existence of Jewish Temple.... shira Oct 2016 #24
The accusations seem to be at least partially fabricated. Little Tich Oct 2016 #27
There's no slipping out of this vileness. Here's Robbins very clearly... shira Oct 2016 #30
It's most probable that the remains of the Temples are right under the Dome of the Rock Little Tich Oct 2016 #31
Now you're defending Robbins' bigotry & attacking "typical hasbara". shira Oct 2016 #32
It may surprise you, but some people, including me have higher evidentiary standards than you. Little Tich Oct 2016 #33
Haaretz 2015: Were There Jewish Temples on Temple Mount? shira Oct 2016 #34
Al Haram Al Sharif is the Mount in Arabic, translated "Noble Sanctuary". shira Oct 2016 #35
Here's Mondoweiss propping up Shlomo Sand (Jews = Khazars) shira Oct 2016 #36
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